Official ITX Thread (Mini, Nano, Pico and Mobile ITXs)

• topel on September 01, 2010 01:34 PM - User is Online

  i love that seagate hybrid... pero bakit 5.9 pa rin?
  
  isa lang masasabi ko... ganda ng Q11. :D
  
  hows the temps sir?

• dm1179 on September 01, 2010 02:17 PM

  ^ewan ko sa WEI score na yan, bakit 5.9 pa rin. :)
  
  Momentus XT Hybrid = 500GB HDD + 4GB SSD.
  
  Review of ST95005620AS: <click here for link>
  
  temperatures are quite good. see screenshot on page 295.

• topel on September 01, 2010 02:24 PM - User is Online

  
  

  
  
  eto pala.. ehehehe... hindi siguro nagload kanina :D

• NeoRedZ on September 01, 2010 03:19 PM

  mixed ang reviews ng momentus xt, may positive, may negative, sinasabi din ng iba na placebo effect lang ang hybrid type niya, mas ok pa din ang pure ssd
  
  supposedly kukuha din ako nyan dito sa tpc kaso ayun nga, mixed reviews, wag na lang, ipon na lang for ssd kahit matagalan, mas sulit naman hehe :)

• janxernan on September 01, 2010 03:38 PM

  ^IMHO yung 4gb SSD part nya is not that sufficient para makapagboost ng performance sa HDD in a remarkable way. Tama si NeoRedz mixed ang reviews nya. I also planned on getting one pero naghesitate ako because of that.

• dm1179 on September 01, 2010 03:44 PM

  as pointed out in tom's hardware review, do not consider the Momentus XT as an SSD, but rather as an HDD. this explains the WEI subscore.
  
  

  However, looking at the product name allows us to take the position and standpoint that is most appropriate when looking at this product: the Momentus XT is a hard drive! It just happens to utilize flash memory in an effort to improve performance. Once we treat it like a hard drive, then we shed the performance expectations to which it can't live up. Yet, the Momentus XT is one of the most innovative storage products in years, and it delivers in real life.
  
  All performance numbers we’ve seen are at least good, as the Momentus XT outperforms all 7,200 RPM 500GB competitors in the majority of our benchmarks. It is the fastest 2.5” drive when it comes to throughput and I/Os, it has good application performance and it delivers great scores on SYSmark 2007 as well, which is based on real applications.

• NeoRedZ on September 01, 2010 03:59 PM

  ^ i'm not treating it as an ssd :)
  
  if for a measly added performance compared to a regular 7200rpm laptop hard drive, i doubt you're gonna feel the "difference" between the two unless you benchmark it
  
  even some people don't feel the difference between 7200rpm and 5400rpm drives
  
  it maybe is faster than 7200rpm drives but not by much
  
  -- edited by NeoRedZ on Sep 01 2010, 04:02 PM

• dm1179 on September 01, 2010 04:42 PM

  that slight difference in performance is what people are after.
  
  it's my client's final decision to get the Momentus XT, though i also offered him SSD from Corsair, OCZ, RunCore, Intel and Kingston.
  
  the 5.9 score is also true with WD Velociraptor 10K RPM and my laptop's 5400RPM HDD. so does it mean they are all equal in performance?
  
  WEI score of my client's workstation rig with WD Velociraptor..
  
  
  
  
  WEI score of my office laptop with 5400RPM SATA HDD..
  
  
  
  
  -- edited by dm1179 on Sep 01 2010, 04:48 PM

• redburn on September 01, 2010 04:51 PM

  Pa share lang po..
  Apex ITX Case mod
  
  
  
  

• gekiganger on September 01, 2010 05:04 PM

  ok yan a sa apex. meron ka pang front and other pics?

• redburn on September 01, 2010 05:10 PM

  Eto po pero wala pang paint. Complete make over po sya since pinagkasya ko 120mm fan sa harap.
  
  
  
  

• NeoRedZ on September 01, 2010 05:11 PM

  so does it mean they are all equal in performance?

  
  of course they are not equal, btw that's not my point...
  
  what i'm pointing out is that there is no noticeable difference unless you benchmark it and see the values presented on the benchmark software
  
  and most likely your client will opt for the xt since it is cheaper than full ssd's
  
  @redburn: nice modz talaga bro :) pa-pm naman kung san ka kumukuha ng acrylics na malapit sa atin, btw from antipolo ako, baka kasi pag hindi nabenta SG05 ko imo-mod ko na lang ang front faceplate nito, tia! :)

• redburn on September 01, 2010 05:13 PM

  ^Sa suking aluminum and glass supply lang po ako bumibili sir. Yung iba mga scrap ko lang galing sa past projects..

• NeoRedZ on September 01, 2010 05:17 PM

  ahh so sabihin ko lang acrylic? sige check ko yung malalapit dito sa amin, dami along marcos highway hehehe

• redburn on September 01, 2010 05:21 PM

  ^Yup po.. Tanung nio po kung meron acrylic or plexiglass po minsan tawag nila..

• topel on September 01, 2010 05:24 PM - User is Online

  wow redburn astig! mi-008 ba yan? iba na itsura!

• redburn on September 01, 2010 05:27 PM

  ^Yes po sir.. Torrent/file server/mini rig po.. :D

• dm1179 on September 01, 2010 05:48 PM

  well, nothing beats the real thing. go SSD if budget permits.

• NeoRedZ on September 01, 2010 06:13 PM

  @topel: uu galing no? hindi na mukhang apex :)
  
  @redburn: noted, thanks sa info :)

• gekiganger on September 01, 2010 06:33 PM

  @redburn
  
  sir magkano inabot pa mod ng ganyan sa apex?

• redburn on September 01, 2010 06:45 PM

  Bale powdercoat lang po nagastos ko and some paints lang po.. Ako lang po nagmod ng nyan..

• r8dhex on September 02, 2010 09:28 AM

  from:
  
  http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/archive/b/windowsvista/archive/2006/09/22/windows-experience-index-an-in-depth-look.aspx
  
  "The disk score measures disk bandwidth (in Mega Bytes per Second). "
  
  Since the SSD part of the XT only serves as a read-ahead cache, it doesn't really help increase the absolute bandwidth of the drive. It's still a 7200rpm drive with a huge cache.
  
  In Vista's time, 5.9 would be the maximum value. Windows 7 has increased the cap, but I think you'll need a SSD and SATA 6.0GB to really up that score.

• jopat on September 02, 2010 11:50 AM - User is Online

  Just got a similar performing card to my GTX275 for my planned mitx/matx rig. Ang cute hehe, di na ko sanay makahawak ng maiikling vc.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  @NeoRedZ
  
  Bro, yung sa modded SG05 mo kasya na ba ang atx psu dun? Meron ka pics w/ standard atx psu?

• NeoRedZ on September 02, 2010 02:40 PM

  ^ hindi ko sinubukan mag-standard atx dito sa sg05 ko dati, check mo yung setup ni ozoz sa sg06 niya, ginamitan ng psu extender, see pic below
  
  
  
  
  cute nga nyang vc mo ah hehehe :D

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