please help regarding msi ex400 laptop

• Knight007 on March 26, 2009 01:51 PM

  mas maganda ang 9300M G sa 3450, kaso di maganda procie ng asus N10J (atom core)...

  
  
  @Pleasing05. sir, can you please elaborate further if there's a significant difference between the processor of asus n10j vs. that of msi ex400? my primary needs are basically ms office (mainly excel) and would watch video's thru internet or dvd movies (I have external dvd). no problem with me on the weight but asus is indeed very portable (which is useful if i hop from internet cafe's or hotspots) compared with the 14-inches msi. my possible gripe on asus might be the 10-inch size of the screen which might not be suitable as i'm a heavy excel user.

• Pleasing05 on March 26, 2009 02:26 PM

  well kung movie viewing, pwede na siguro yung asus n10j. pero nagkamali ako kung sino mas malakas:
  3Dmark06 score
  Geforce 9300M G ---> 1958
  ATI HD3450 ---> 1978
  
  from <click here for link>
  
  Mas malakas pala ang ATI, kaso hairline lang hehehe.
  
  sa processors:
  3Dmark06 score
  Intel Atom Processor 477
  Intel DualCore T3200 > 1470*
  Intel Core2Duo T5750 ***
  
  * (based sa score ng T2390, presumed na stronger ang T3200 sa T2390)
  ** (no score, pero expect it to be faster than T3200)
  
  Price:
  Asus N10J P39500.00 (not latest)
  MSI EX400 T3200 P28000.00 (latest)
  MSI EX400 T5750 P33000.00 (latest)
  
  sa tatlong schemes of rating, MSI EX400 >>> Asus N10J. Pero the tables will turn whe I mention:
  
  Battery Life
  Asus N10J 6-12 hours (daw, 6 cell pero pinagtatalunan daw sabi ni pccorner)
  MSI EX400 2 hours MAX
  
  putting these into consideration, mobility ba ang hanap mo? if yes, N10J ka na, kaso mapapamahal ka dahil specifically mas maganda performance wise ang EX400.
  
  Sa movie viewing, sabi ng iba eh mas maganda daw manood sa larger screen. Sa case ko, I dont care kung maliit o malaki basta malinaw.
  
  

  very portable

  
  
  Note mo rin na very mobile dahil kung titignan mo, sobrang hirap gamitin ng ex400 lalo na kung wala kang alam na power outlet sa pupuntahan mo.
  
  

  my possible gripe on asus might be the 10-inch size of the screen which might not be suitable as i'm a heavy excel user.

  
  
  now eto ang problem. Naexperience ko sa 12 inches ang heavy excel usage ( mga 5 graphs per tab, then 5 tabs, experiment sa pumps hahaha) and ayos lang. sa 7 inches naman, sobrang hirap gumawa ng anything (dahil ang liit ng screen). Di ko lang alam sa 10 inches kung ayos lang.
  
  Also, mahihirapan kang magtype sa 10 incher laptops kung malaking tao ka, and mataba yung fingers mo.
  
  Now kung ang tanung mo eh meron bang effect ang relatively low specs ng asus n10j sa excel and movies, well not quite. dahil ang most effect lang na mararamdaman mo is slower loading times ng OS and programs. Pero it will not slow down office apps and video streaming while it is running.
  
  Now kung gusto mo ng headroom kung saka sakaling in the near future eh mag CAD ka or video editing, mag ex400 ka.
  
  verdict:
  Performance, price ---> MSI EX400
  Mobility, compact -----> Asus N10J
  
  the choice is yours mate, hope I had helped :)

• baroki on March 26, 2009 02:34 PM

  saan mabibili ang ex400 t5750 ng 33k?

• Pleasing05 on March 26, 2009 02:54 PM

  me nagpost dito dati, si sir noel ata yun. not sure kung san nya nabili though, try mo backread bro bka mahanap mo

• Knight007 on March 26, 2009 05:20 PM

  sir Pleasing05, thank you po for the explanation provided. mahal pala ang asus n10j. akala ko mga 32k lang and with windows xp home na. whereas ang msi ex-400 dual-core yata na 28k or 29k wala pang os.
  
  anyway, thanks again. i'll continue my research and nakakatulong yung write-up po ninyo.

• Pleasing05 on March 26, 2009 06:09 PM

  @ knight007
  
  check mo bro yung latest price. baka nagbaba sila ng price. kasi tinignan ko yan sa pc corner, eh di naman mahiig mag update ng price sa site nila.

• Knight007 on March 26, 2009 09:42 PM

  check mo bro yung latest price. baka nagbaba sila ng price. kasi tinignan ko yan sa pc corner, eh di naman mahiig mag update ng price sa site nila.

  
  
  thanks for the inputs. it's very helpful although at this point i've haven't decided yet between the two. I have higher preference for battery life; however, i now understand dual-core processor is superior than atom.

• dOUbleOfour on March 28, 2009 11:29 AM

  Boss, ito po bang ex400 natin ay x64/64bit supported?..
  
  kakikita ko lang kasi sa EVEREST software ko na yung maotherboard ko ay may nakalagay na:
  
  64-bit x86 Extension (AMD64, Intel64) SUPPORTED
  
  tapos meron ding
  
  Instruction Set: x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3
  
  meaning ba nito pwede ako mag install ng OS na 64bit?..

• domidomdomz on March 29, 2009 09:18 AM

  hi guys, may naririnig na dn aqng umuugong d2 sa ex400 ko, ung hinala nyu na hard disk. nafifix pu ba ito?

• Pleasing05 on March 29, 2009 10:32 AM

  hi guys, may naririnig na dn aqng umuugong d2 sa ex400 ko, ung hinala nyu na hard disk. nafifix pu ba ito?

  
  
  sa start up lang ba? kung sa start up lang slightly normal sya, yun yung fan ng procie pag medyo nakatabingi ang laptop. mawawala din after a few secs pag naload na windows. pero kung nagpepersist pa rin, itapat mo yung tenga mo sa laptop and pakinggan kung san nanggagaling ang tunog. kung sa right hand side hdd yan.
  
  

  Boss, ito po bang ex400 natin ay x64/64bit supported?..

  
  
  hmm nagkarun ako ng impression na almost all dual core released are 64 bit supported. not sure kung true, pero more likely na ang T3200 eh 64 bit compatible.
  
  EDIT:
  Catalyst 9.3 out 2 weeks ago. sa mga gustong mag update:
  
  kopyahin nyo dito yung kelangan ilagay sa inf files:
  <click here for link>
  
  tapos eto instructions
  
  <click here for link>
  
  might go back sa catalyst 9.1 pag di maganda naging resulta ng 3dmark06
  
  another edit:
  
  1651 in 3dmark06. malaki improvement over 9.2 sa games. recommend to uppdate to 9.3
  
  -- edited by Pleasing05 on Mar 29 2009, 11:24 AM
  
  -- edited by Pleasing05 on Mar 29 2009, 11:55 AM

• dOUbleOfour on March 29, 2009 12:04 PM

  Guys found out na our MSi ex400 ay 64bit capable..

• midnite_sun on March 30, 2009 05:47 AM

  Hi guys!
  Naku,meron nanaman akong nagawang mali sa lappy ko. I was installing an apps that required a driver to be installed. While installing,biglang nasira yung graphics ng screen ko. Naging mga horizontal bars na uneven and color green,white,red,and a few more I can't remember. And nag-hang na sya. Namatay na pati light ng DVD drive. Ni restart ko gamit yung power button. Kaso windows not loading properly na. Kahit yung safe mode ayaw,or yung checkup and fix ayaw na din tumuloy. Hayz... Later, I'm giving it to my BF to have him fix it for me. And I'm going to ask him to install apps for me na din. Kainis talga. :(

• Pleasing05 on March 30, 2009 08:07 AM

  Guys found out na our MSi ex400 ay 64bit capable..

  
  
  thanks for the info bro! how did you find out?
  
  @ midnite sun
  
  have you tried to reformat? baka random OS error lang or something, or probably incompatible sa os. kung vista yan, programs like alcohol na old versions screw up the OS.

• midnite_sun on March 30, 2009 08:10 AM

  @Pleasing05
  ayan... ang galing mo... alcohol nga! how did you know?
  grrr... reformat na tlga to? hayz...

• Pleasing05 on March 30, 2009 08:19 AM

  @ midnite
  
  dahil nangyari na rin sakin yan, kaso di ko laptop yung ininstallan ko :)
  
  gawin mo, start mo 3 or 4 times? king ayaw tanggal battery, wait for 1 min, then start uli, me lalabas na repair windows or something. eventually mag start din yan.
  
  pag nag start, remove alcohol immediately...
  
  also, alcohol versions 1.9.8.7421 is already vista compatible.
  
  -- edited by Pleasing05 on Mar 30 2009, 08:22 AM

• midnite_sun on March 30, 2009 08:25 AM

  @Pleasing05
  yung check-up and fix ata yung sinasabi mo?
  yep i tried doing the start then i got that screen about check-up and fix more than 4x already. after choosing the check-up and fix option a number of times, it just gives me a blank screen. not a blue screen... just a blank one. enwi, i'll try the battery thing.
  i hope i fix this soon. thanks for the tip.
  
  -- edited by midnite_sun on Mar 30 2009, 08:28 AM

• Pleasing05 on March 30, 2009 08:34 AM

  kung me lumabas na black screen thingy be patient, nagloload windows nun. probably 7 minutes tolerance tapos saka mo restart kung la pa lumabas.

• midnite_sun on March 30, 2009 08:45 AM

  @Pleasing05
  okies po...
  thanks thanks talaga... hope this fixes the problem.
  
  ...After hours of trying to fix my lappy... It's still broken. Later i-restore ko na lang. If this doesn't work pa din, reformat na to! Grrr... Effort! Hyz... :(
  
  -- edited by midnite_sun on Mar 31 2009, 05:27 AM

• newcomer on April 06, 2009 11:03 AM

  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T5800
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  2.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  250Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 29,250.00*
  
  
  
  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T6400
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  2.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  250Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 29,750.00*
  
  
  
  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T6400
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  4.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  320Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 33,750.00*
  
  
  
  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T6400
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  4.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  500Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 33,750.00*
  

  
  
  HUWAW!!!
  
  
  ang laki naman ng ibinaba ng presyo nito. Tumaas pa specs ng proc...
  
  
  kaka-enganyo na ah...

• baroki on April 07, 2009 06:28 PM

  ganun pa din kaya ang design?.. at nakaka-'bunny hop' na kaya?.. hmmm..

• icenwulf on April 09, 2009 07:45 AM

  sabi all black daw.. prang ung sa T3200..
  
  
  ano ba mas gusto nyo? ung all black o ung may silver?
  
  
  parang mas gusto ko ung black w/ silver

• snicker on April 09, 2009 12:46 PM

  NEWCOMER or anybody? hehe..
  
  san nyo po nakita yung specs na to? san store or website
  
  
  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T5800
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  2.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  250Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 29,250.00*
  
  
  
  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T6400
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  2.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  250Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 29,750.00*
  
  
  
  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T6400
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  4.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  320Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 33,750.00*
  
  
  
  MSI Gamers’ EX400
  NOTE : ATI HD3450 + 250Gb RAM
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T6400
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  4.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  500Gb* SATA HDD
  DVD RW—Recordable ODD
  14” WXGA ACV / Wireless BG
  Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S. +3K
  PhP 33,750.00*

• snicker on April 09, 2009 12:47 PM

  MAKABILI NA SA Saturday pagbukas ng mall.. hehe

• snicker on April 09, 2009 12:50 PM

  Guys and GAls, any suggestion or comment kung ano maganda bilhin?
  
  
  
  option A: MSI MegaBook EX400
  
  ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD3450
  Uber Gizmo !!!!: Chassis Layout !!!!
  Intel® Core™2 Duo T5750
  2.00GHz, 2Mb, 667MHz
  (dual CPU-64bit)
  2.0Gb DDR2 (2-slots)
  160Gb SATA HDD
  DVD-RW / modem / Wireless LAN
  14.1in. WXGA / dedicated VRAM
  MicroSoft® Windows® Vista™ Basic
  
  
  option B: Lenovo Y330 ATI HD3450 !
  
  Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor
  T5800
  2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz
  2.0Gb DDR2 667MHz
  250Gb SATA
  DVD RW (Slot Load)
  13.3in. WXGA / Wi-Fi G / Modem
  ATI Radein HD3450 !! Dedicated !!
  Windows Vista™
  Home Premium

• baroki on April 09, 2009 02:03 PM

  sa post ni pc_corner dito sa tpc.. sobra na mura..

• baroki on April 09, 2009 02:04 PM

  kunin mo yun 500b ang hdd.. same price lang talaga nun 320gb ang hdd..

• snicker on April 09, 2009 04:48 PM

  Thanks baroki!
  
  how about LENOVO? dba maganda rin specs nya compare sa EX400?

• baroki on April 09, 2009 04:52 PM

  actually mas ok specs nun MSI, mas mura pa.. mas maganda nga lang design nun lenovo para sakin..

• snicker on April 09, 2009 04:59 PM

  Yeah.. tama ka, naka T6400 na nga pala yung msi...
  
  screen size is 14.1 msi while LENOVO 13.3 in.. hmm.. mas handy nga sya, bka hirap na gamitin pag nag autocad nko.. or watcching movies.. hay... hirap mag-decide. hehe..

• midnite_sun on April 09, 2009 08:03 PM

  meron na po ba naka-try mag-voice conference sa yahoo ang gumana yung built in mic? hindi ko kasi alam kung panno gamitin eh. tnx!

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