1. for recreational purposes
2. for security sympre
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According sa picture ng Suspect Sir.. sundalo sya.
Reservist lang po siya sabi sa news. May shoot to kill orders na nga raw siya pag nanlaban. Tatlo daw kasi naka rehistrong baril sa kanya kaya considered armed and dangerous. -
Dapat jan pahirapan, wag patayin kagad ng di pamarisan. Army reserve lang tas daig pa ibang pulis saka sundalo makaposing, olats sa sapakan ng sekyung naka bisikleta kaya sabay bunot ng baril para maligtas bayag sa kasama sa sasakyan. Kakapikon talaga, sana pinapahirapan na yan ngayon ng kung sino man may hawak jan, napakayabang kesyo me baril na dala lang. Tsk.
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ngayong nagpapapogi ang mga pulis tyak na itutumba yang suspect na yan.
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100k ang presyo sa ulo. patay talaga siya. unahan para sa pera.
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kung mapatay kaya yan, magiging bayani ang makakapatay o magiging criminal din? ahaha.. baka biglang kasuhan ng CHR.. baka gumanti din ang pamilya niyang suspek, ubusan n kayo ng lahi..ahaha..
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Sabi nga ni Digong:
Human rights must work to uplift human dignity. [applause] But human rights cannot be used as a shield or an excuse to destroy the country --- your country and my country. [applause]
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No offense sir pero kung ako yung driver at may baril ako, hindi ko babarilin yan. It only means na hindi tayo parehas ng pag iisip. Hindi ako papadala ng bugso ng damdamin ko. Malay natin hindi marunong tumanggap nag pagkatalo yung driver, at may kasama sya, baka napahiya kaya nya binaril.
pareho lang tayo. tulad mo di rin ako siraulo tulad ni Tanto.
Latest development, susuko na daw yung naka baril at magpapaliwanag. Sana sampulan to ni General Bato
read again yung reply ko bro
kasi kung ganun lalayo kana dapat, and kung ikaw yung eon driver at nag sorry na, babarilin mo pa ba?
sa tingin ko talaga, kung nag sorry yung biker di na lalabas yung eon driver to shoot him.
like what matchachloe said we can all speculate ..
this is what i think(speculate) really happened, the biker taunting Tanto after beating Tanto sa fistfight:
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“Pare, saglit (Buddy, wait).”
These were the last words heard from Mark Vincent Garalde, the biker encountered by Vhon Martin Tanto in a road altercation in Quiapo, Manila, on Monday night.
Getting off from his red Hyundai Eon, Tanto replied by shooting Garalde twice in the face at close range, then pulling the trigger two more times after the victim fell to the ground.
This was how a witness, Bryan Yu, recalled the encounter between the two men who traded punches and “nothing but angry words” before Tanto finished the fight with his pistol.
According to Yu, he first spotted the two men on Arlegui Street with Tanto chasing Garalde before cutting him off on Casal Street. He said both were fuming mad (“gigil na gigil”) as they had an exchange, which prompted Tanto to get off his car.
Then the two-minute fistfight ensued. Other witnesses who refused to be identified said onlookers cheered as the two men fought, with some saying they did not intervene because both men were obviously “parehong matapang” or spoiling for a fight.
Tanto appeared to have suffered the worst beating, based on the footage taken by a security camera in the area. He stepped back and returned to his car while Garalde walked back to his bike.
Yu said the spectators thought it was over—but Garalde stuck his head inside the vehicle and said something to Tanto.
He added that Garalde was again walking away when he looked back and yelled at Tanto, “You son of a b—h! What do you want, come here!”
Tanto responded, Yu said, by again getting out of his car—this time with a gun—and saying: “What now?”
The case investigator, SPO2 Charles Duran of the Manila Police District (MPD) homicide division, said a woman was in the car with Tanto that night. She remained unidentified “but definitely she’s not the wife,” Duran said.
Bystanders said the woman shouted at Tanto, telling him not to shoot Garalde.
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kilabot, may dala ka ba?
Ako medyo madami ding mga instances na sira ulo yung mga sasakyan, like pipinahan ako or pupunta sa harap tapos babagalan ang takbo. So far, puro 4-wheels lang naman and trucks, pag motor, ewan ko nalang baka banggain ko na, lalo na kung riding in tandem at baka criminal pala. -
Kung responsible gun owner ka alam mo dapat kung kelan kailangan ginagamit ang baril mo. Di yan kapangyarihan na inaabuso mo. May sapak sa ulo yan. Nagkaron lang ng baril e kala nya above the law na sya. Dapat dyan pahirapan e. Pinahiya na nya mga kasama nya pati ang ahensiya kung san man sya nagtatrabaho.
May kayabangan din kasi talaga si Tanto. Halimbawa pa lang nyan ay ang "ltopf, license to own" pero hindi ibig sabihin na pwede mo dalhin kasi kelangan mo ng "ptcfor, to carry ourtside" iba iba kasi requirements pag ganyan at may justification.
Masarap talaga kasi ang mag may-ari ng baril at maglabas ng baril kasi power yan minsan nga lang pag mainit ang ulo ng tao eh hindi dapat mauna ang init/yabang kumpara sa responsableng pag iisip. -
kilabot, may dala ka ba?
teka bro linawin mo muna tanong mo ^_^
if baril ibig mo sabihin, oo pero di sakin. yung ex ko kasi general yung erpat at inuutusan ako mag drive for his wife's business. never ko ginamit, at wala akong balak gamitin yun. -
Hehehe, yun actually talaga ang tanong ko.
Contemplating on getting a firearm pero hesitant pa din dahil hinde mo din masabi, pero maganda din yung may protection ka when needed. -
Nahuli na daw si tanto sa masbate.
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Nabasa ko nga nahuli din, after reading the updates, may bago akong hula sa mga nangyari:
Baka nga may kasalanan itong si Victim kay suspect. Pwedeng normal driving lang itong si Suspect, tapos may pasaway moves si Victim at na fender bender/scratch kotse ni Suspect.
Marami naman siguro sa atin dito kokomprontahin yung gumasgas ng kotse nila, kung sakali. Hindi naman basta basta lang ang pag aalis ng scratch/bump ng auto. So ganun ginawa ni Suspect, hinabol si Victim at sinabihan na panagutan niya yung gastos para pagawa yung mga gasgas ng auto niya. Kaso nagmatigas din itong si Victim at rumesponde na ang may kasalanan talaga ay si suspect, namayagpag siguro ang "Pinoy Pedestrian Mentality" kay biker, na dapat daw si Kotse mag-ingat, kasi siya naka-kotse, si Biker prone na prone at laging may right-of-way.
Pero kahit na anung galit ang lumabas sa victim at sa suspect, hindi parin ito rason para gawin ni suspect yung pagpatay. Tsk.
RE: Gun ownership
Naisipan ko narin bumili dati ng baril, buti hindi ko ito nagawa kasi lately na-realize ko, mabigat pala kamay ko. Nauuna aksyon sakin kesa pag iisip pag mainit na ulo ko (madalang kasi ako magalit) -
1. for recreational purposes
2. for security sympre
recreational? pede naman mag rent ng gun sa mga shooting range di ba?
for security? kung may nangholdap sayo na may dalang kutsilyo, babarilin mo ba? hindi ka ba talo sa kaso nun? -
guns don't kill people, it's idiots with guns who kill people
parang it's always the wrong people who have access to guns or having one suddenly makes you brave and macho -
sa tingin ko talaga, kung nag sorry yung biker di na lalabas yung eon driver to shoot him.
walang kuha nung before nila magkasuntukan so di natin alam kung sino ang nasa tama o mali para humingi ng sori. marami kasi motorista rin na sila na mali sila pa galit eh. May kakilala nga ko estudyante halos mahagip na nung jeep eh nasa pedestrian lane naman, aba minura pa nung driver. lol
So medyo too presumptive na yan na dapat humingi ng pasensya yung biker.
Yu said the spectators thought it was over—but Garalde stuck his head inside the vehicle and said something to Tanto.
He added that Garalde was again walking away when he looked back and yelled at Tanto, “You son of a b—h! What do you want, come here!”
Tanto responded, Yu said, by again getting out of his car—this time with a gun—and saying: “What now?”
The case investigator, SPO2 Charles Duran of the Manila Police District (MPD) homicide division, said a woman was in the car with Tanto that night. She remained unidentified “but definitely she’s not the wife,” Duran said.
Bystanders said the woman shouted at Tanto, telling him not to shoot Garalde.
parang iba to don sa kuha sa cctv. I saw the victim offering his hand like he was apoiogizing and giving a handshake and then signaling a stop like the fight is over. Then he cautiously walked away, he then saw tanto coming at him with his gun and he again made a hand signal of stop like he's surrendering. Anyway, whichever way you look at it, nobody deserves to be murdered with a petty reason as that. -
@se7ven
recreational? pede naman mag rent ng gun sa mga shooting range di ba?
for security? kung may nangholdap sayo na may dalang kutsilyo, babarilin mo ba? hindi ka ba talo sa kaso nun?
pede naman mag rent ng gun sa mga shooting range di ba?
**bakit hindi ba pwedeng bumili, kung may pera ka at passion mo ang collection ng baril???
kung may nangholdap sayo na may dalang kutsilyo, babarilin mo ba? hindi ka ba talo sa kaso nun?
**self defense, you will not be liable for any case.
may mga scenarios pa nga na binibigyan ng permit to carry ang isang tao kung napatunayan ng court na nakakatanggap siya ng death threat.
we all have our choices bro. wag puro kontra. haha. peace!
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recreational? pede naman mag rent ng gun sa mga shooting range di ba?
Yung rented gun, di mo kasi sure na alangang-alaga. If you own one, pwede mo ito iupgrade and take care to your liking. Parang sasakyan, mas kampante ka pag sariling sasakyan kesa sa taxi.
Isa pa, di kumpleto ang choices sa gun range.
for security? kung may nangholdap sayo na may dalang kutsilyo, babarilin mo ba? hindi ka ba talo sa kaso nun?
Your life is in danger. Kahit na kutsilyo lang yun. -
ninjababez on 29 Jul 16 @ 08:24 AM #
Buti in good terms parin kayo ng tatay ng ex mo na General. Napakaswerte mo parekoy.
kilabot, may dala ka ba?
teka bro linawin mo muna tanong mo ^_^
if baril ibig mo sabihin, oo pero di sakin. yung ex ko kasi general yung erpat at inuutusan ako mag drive for his wife's business. never ko ginamit, at wala akong balak gamitin yun.
Hindi ako magugulat kung sa katagalan lalaya rin itong si Tanto. Self-defense malamang ilalaban ng kampo niya. At kung hindi maganda ang pagkakagawa at hindi malakas ang kaso na ginawa ng mga taong gobyerno, malamang matatalo sila sa kaso. Napakababa ng conviction rate dito sa Pinas. -
Buti in good terms parin kayo ng tatay ng ex mo na General. Napakaswerte mo parekoy.
ot:
Oo naman bro, lahat kamag anak (lolas, titos, titas and cousins) pabirito ako :) -
Hindi ako magugulat kung sa katagalan lalaya rin itong si Tanto. Self-defense malamang ilalaban ng kampo niya. At kung hindi maganda ang pagkakagawa at hindi malakas ang kaso na ginawa ng mga taong gobyerno, malamang matatalo sila sa kaso. Napakababa ng conviction rate dito sa Pinas.
i doubt it. mangaagaw ng baril yan ;) -
Malabo self defense, kung self defense yan isang bala lang. Kaso obyus limang bala pinakawalan, tapos me nadamay pa. Nakakatawa lang halatang yun ang gusto ni Tanto palabasin sa pagsabi niya na nagmunura yung siklista na binaril niya.
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classic case of passion and obfuscation (Art. 13, par. 6, RPC) sa kaso ni TANTO at GERALDE.
dala ng beastmode. confess ka na lang TANTO para menos sentensya ka (1 degree lower) -
Malabo yan pumasok sa self defense. requirement ng self defense eh may immediate threat sa buhay mo. Someone not armed and walking away doesn't constitute any threat to his life at all.
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Uber summoned; driver accused of rape
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Dear parents,
Turuan niyo ang mga anak niyo kung paano umakto sa ganyang klaseng sitwasyon, teach your kids how to defend themselves, to be mentally alert during stressful situations..
feeling ko dun sa rape victim, masyadong nauna ang takot kaya sumunod na lang sa gusto ng driver..
If she had a clear mind during that time, pwede nyang guluhin sa pagmamaneho yung driver, kurutin yung bayag/kagatin etc -
^ Puro bash nga inabot ng victim sa fb.
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^ mapapakamot ka kasi ng ulo kung bakit lumipat si ate sa harap para makipagkwentuhan dun sa driver, pwede naman sa likod ka lang makipagkwentuhan, buti ba kung kakilala mo yung driver..ang bilis naman niya magtiwala na sa small talk lang e close na kayo
traumatic lesson na lang para sa kanya..good luck dun sa suspek, mukhang makati na yung kamay nung tatay nung biktima..ipa-rape na lang sa preso yung suspek -
Kaya nga eh tapos dun sa interview dun daw napiyak yung victim sa part na sinigil sya ng driver hehehe