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Criminal Modus Operandi! Share your scam experiences!

  • with our current situation right now? i doubt may makukulong.
  • update lang .. di pa tapos ..
    wag nyo asarin yung welding job ko ha! :P

    pa cute muna ^_^





    -- edited by ninjababez on Sep 21 2016, 05:46 AM



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  • ^ ninjababes, pag may sunog (knock-on-wood), mayroon naman pong labasan?
  • ^ ninjababes, pag may sunog (knock-on-wood), mayroon naman pong labasan?
    lahat 4 rooms may fire exit naman with padlock. tapos yung sa likod meron din.
    concrete naman yung buong building if that matters.




    -- edited by ninjababez on Sep 21 2016, 07:36 AM
  • @ninjababez
    yung dorm dati nung classmate ko sa likod ng ust, parang ganyan yung bintana, ~8inches yung gap ng grills. may nahuli kaming bata sa loob ng dorm pag dating namin. dinala namin sa barangay, sabi dun matagal na daw modus yan sa dapitan area. magdadala sila ng hydraulic jack (yung 1 ton na maliit) para palakihin yung gap, then magpapapasok ng bata para buksan yung pinto. di lang nabuksan ng bata yung pinto kasi nagloloko yung isa sa mga locks dun, kailangan pang buhatin ng onti yung pinto para lang maunlock.
  • sabi dun matagal na daw modus yan sa dapitan area. magdadala sila ng hydraulic jack (yung 1 ton na maliit) para palakihin yung gap,


    yeah ito rin sabi ng tito kong laking baclaran. minsan naman ginagamit nila sa concrete pillars kasi tahimik daw talaga ito, ang ingay nalang daw na maririnig is yung mga concrete na nalalaglag.
  • yung dorm dati nung classmate ko sa likod ng ust, parang ganyan yung bintana, ~8inches yung gap ng grills. may nahuli kaming bata sa loob ng dorm pag dating namin. dinala namin sa barangay, sabi dun matagal na daw modus yan sa dapitan area. magdadala sila ng hydraulic jack (yung 1 ton na maliit) para palakihin yung gap, then magpapapasok ng bata para buksan yung pinto. di lang nabuksan ng bata yung pinto kasi nagloloko yung isa sa mga locks dun, kailangan pang buhatin ng onti yung pinto para lang maunlock.


    haha. hayop pala style ng magnanakaw dyan. pati bata isinasali.
  • haha. hayop pala style ng magnanakaw dyan. pati bata isinasali.


    laganap yang ganyan style. Mga bata kasi kasya sa mga maliliit na lagusan. kaya for security purpose, make sure na di rin kakaysa kahit bata.
  • nanakawan na naman sa amin yung apartment sa taas, yung nanakawan dati. parang inside job na ang ginagawa. shet.
    Pasay area.
  • ^yan ba yung katapat nyo? pde mo sila help, lagyan mo ng monitoring device yung tapat nyo para makita mo kung sino nagnanakaw hehe
  • may cctv na. ung mismong katabi unit namin. ung sa nanakawan kasi medyo malayo kaya hindi hagip ng camera. tapos sa taas na floor pa.
  • More of the Good Samaritan Caller/Killer Modus
    I'm typing this down in my spare time. Friends, this post will be very lengthy, but if you're a negosyante, or if you have negosyante friends, I swear. You'll be thankful for reading this wall of text.

    Several days ago, about half the family (yours truly included) and some helpers were in Divisoria procuring supplies for the business. Tired, we all decided to eat at this restaurant in Tutuban Center Mall. I decided to walk around while we waited for the food. I spent about 5 to 7 minutes loitering, and decided to go back to said restaurant. When I returned, mom was on the phone and looked really, really stressed. I remember hearing nothing but "Tulungan ka? Panong tulong?" Then she passed her phone to dad, saying to whoever was on the line "Kausapin mo asawa ko."

    As it turns out, this was what the call was all about:
    The call was supposedly from a group of hired killers. They supposedly have men deployed at San Roque, Tarlac, for two days already. The caller calls himself "William Mendez" (which probably isn't his real name) has a southern islander accent was saying that his client "Elmer" (which is probably another made-up name) wanted to "pabura" mom, and has added fifty thousand pesos more to include the whole family. This practically has got mom shaking in her boots. Ofc who wouldn't? Lives were practically threatened. What they wanted was for us to "help them help us" because "may mga inosenteng madadamay." In other words, he wanted us to pay them so we stay unharmed. Oh yeah, and the killers were supposedly from Zambales. He was telling us to pay for their "pamasahe pauwi", and probably more ofc.

    Dad ended the call saying "Paguusapan namin." There were calls that followed almost as soon as the call was ended where William sounded angry exclaiming "Putangina, buhay na nga nakataya, paguusapan pa?"

    We called the TPPO immediately and were advised to report to our local police station. Parents barely had a bite to eat. Thinking I might need the energy for later, I ate normally and even slept in the car on our way home from Manila. On our way home we were also trying our best to contact the rest of the family, wanted them to stay home just in case.

    Btw, William used a prepaid sim, so pretty much he's untraceable.

    We shut ourselves in after reporting the incident to the police. We had no way of finding out how serious this thing was. It's our first time receiving a threat. It was so surreal cause it seemed like the stuff of 80s-90s Pinoy action films (starring FPJ and Pacquito Diaz and the synths and drums resonating in the background) but the family doesn't deal with drugs, or gambling, nor are we politically involved.

    After around two weeks of no going out I heard of similar experiences from my colleagues in the cooperative. We have been thinking that it's most likely a modus where these delinquents try to extort money from businessmen by scaring them with death threats. Whoever called may have had their hands on a directory with all our names.

    There was one recent victim who heard that we experienced the same gimmick (Only we didn't send money. Unfortunately, he did) and told us that after she paid up an amount, her caller dropped the name of the person who allegedly wanted this victim dead. We know for a fact that this is impossible because that someone has her hands full with her business, and she's absolutely sweet and her integrity's A-grade. She's a family friend, too. She would never in a million years place a bounty on a fellow Tarlac-based entrepreneur. The idea is simply laughable. What's irksome is that not only do these felons try to leech hard earned money from you, they'd even go as far as pinning the blame on innocent people.

    I just found out from DTI Tarlac that such cases weren't unique to Tarlac. There were highly identical stories that pretty much mirror ours in Nueva Ecija and Bulacan, if I remember correctly.

    Ultimately, for a scam, this sh*t's given us undue stress of epic proportions. Mom wanted to have her phone number changed for a time, but of course the line's used for business too, and simply shutting it down won't be very logical move. We couldn't go out to hear mass. Couldn't go out alone, family members had to be escorted whenever they leave the house. It's all crazy af.

    Friends, should you receive any threats, do not immediately give in to these demands most especially when you do not owe anything to anyone. Best to let the police know ASAP. Maybe talk to someone logical enough to help you, and inform people through secure channels.

    I'm not saying that you should just shrug off death threats, though. It always pays to be extra careful. Malay pa natin iba pa pala yan..
  • mga sirs, may alam ba kayo mabibilihan ng security devices gaya ng motion detector / laser trip wire alarm.. or mas maigi yung parang sesend sa iyo ng SMS kung may detected intruder
  • @gtgonzales
    Thanks sa info bro. Para sa akin dapat mapasa na talaga yung batas na ireregister yung number ng bawat subscriber, sigurado mababawasan yung mga ganyang cases. Kung may mangyari man, identified agad kung sino gumawa.
  • sa mga online sellers, ingat po sa bagong modus ng mga scammers
    FB post shared by a friend

    I just have to post this and if you can, please share this too so that people will be aware.
    Earlier this week a certain person inquired about some of my stuff for sale sa instagram, she said she'd purchase some of my books and asked for my Bank Acct. Details so that she could deposit the money.
    A few days after, she said she already paid, but instead of sending Php 500 she mistakenly sent me Php 50,000 which was (according to her) intended for a different seller. She asked me to forward the money to the account of the seller which she purchased a Chanel bag from, she asked me to deposit it to KRISSIA ANGELIQUE GANNOD.
    Before sending the money I tried to check online who this Ms. Gannod is since I'll be turning over a huge amount, I found out she's a SCAMMER!!! And so I warned her and asked if she's sure she purchased from a legit seller and she was so chill about it, she said she's sure and she already purchased from Ms. Gannod 3x. And that's where I knew something wasn't right.
    I asked her to send me additional proof that she was the one who sent me the money, but she couldn't. I tried to call her, she wouldn't answer, she just kept on making excuses. So I realized she scammed someone using my name and other details. I felt very uneasy keeping the money for days knowing it wasn't mine, but I was more afraid to send it to someone who I knew had evil plans for it.
    I posted this issue on instagram hoping to find the owner of the money, a few days after I found a scam related post which included my name in it. I contacted the person who posted it and turns out, she too was a victim of this scam, she doesn't own the money as well, she was also "mistakenly sent" a certain amount of money that was (according to the scammer again) intended for me and that's why the money ended up with me. The money has been passed on to two people excluding the owner before it could reach the scammer (which it didn't of course), to make it harder for the victims to understand what was going on.
    After 3 sleepless nights we both found the real owner of the money. It was verified by the branch manager of the involved bank. Let this serve as a warning to all to be very cautious when purchasing stuff online. Also, if you receive an unexpected amount of money in your bank accounts, never ever deposit it to just anyone who claims to own it, let them file a complain at the bank instead.
  • ^
    Tsk. Dapat kasi may national ID. At di makakabili ng sim kapag hindi pinipresent national ID. Para traceable lahat ng transaction. Kung nasan ako, dahil linked thru national ID, kada bank transaction eh manonotify ka thru text kaya iwas scam. And sobrang dalang ng ganyang scams.
  • ^^ Kinda ridiculous how the real owner(50k) ended up transacting that amount online with a unknown person.

    -- edited by fordman on Sep 28 2016, 04:31 PM
  • Kinda ridiculous how the real owner(50k) ended up transacting that amount online with a unknown person


    Identity theft. Probably made a convincing case na yung scammer ay yung recipient (gateway account). May kaya siguro yan recipient kaya napapayag nya na magsend ng ganon kalaki yung victim.

    Medyo elaborate tong scam na to. Mukhang pinag isipan mabuti. Di nya lang inasahan na magresearch yung owner ng gateway account nya about the last destination of the money, which is of course, the scammer's acct.
  • Mukhang pinag isipan mabuti. Di nya lang inasahan na magresearch yung owner ng gateway account nya


    Ikaw na din nagsabi, sumablay sa huli so malamang hindi pinagisipan ng mabuti which is actually the main point im curious as how and why the real owner shelled out 50k.
  • Ikaw na din nagsabi, sumablay sa huli so malamang hindi pinagisipan ng mabuti which is actually the main point im curious as how and why the real owner shelled out 50k.


    Murphy's law :) Doesn't mean hindi pinag isipan. Even the best laid plans still fail sometimes.
    Like I said, identity theft. Napaniwala ng scammer yung victim na sya yung recipient. Ganito yan, example sa TPC. merong kilalang seller daming feedback. Nagpanggap yung scammer na sya yung TPC seller na yon. Convincing sigurado yung scammer kaya the vic trusted the guy, kaya nagpadala ng 50k. Before that, kinausap nya rin yung seller na may bibilhin kuno. Pakilala nya naman sya yung victim. Then sinabi nya nagkamali sya ng padala. Imbes na 500 eh naging 50k. Ipabalik na lang dun sa other acct nya na in reality is his real bank acct.

    It's actually a good plan/scam. Yon nga lang nagresearch yung recipient. Yon di nya inaasahan. or maybe kasama sa possibility na naisip nya yon. He just thought the possibility is low and worth the risk.

    -- edited by eric26 on Sep 28 2016, 10:20 PM
  • After 3 sleepless nights we both found the real owner of the money. It was verified by the branch manager of the involved bank.


    I'm curious how this happened and the steps involved? Bank manager just gives out names of clients?
  • I'm curious how this happened and the steps involved? Bank manager just gives out names of clients?
    I think not really. The first recipient may have submitted a list of possible depositors whom the bank can crosscheck. If it was transferred wirelessly then it would be easier to trace the source rather than OTC deposits.
  • Dati pc parts lang ang nakukuha ng scammer using identity theft modus. He will order from seller, papa-ship nya and opts to pay via bank deposit. Scammer then sells any item of the same amount using the seller's info as his own para yung mauto nya ang magdedeposit sa seller. Scammer then informs seller na nagdeposit na siya then seller ships the item to the scammer.

    Ngayon, medyo elaborate na. Kelangan na ng "matrix" para maintindihan
  • Dati pc parts lang ang nakukuha ng scammer using identity theft modus. He will order from seller, papa-ship nya and opts to pay via bank deposit. Scammer then sells any item of the same amount using the seller's info as his own para yung mauto nya ang magdedeposit sa seller. Scammer then informs seller na nagdeposit na siya then seller ships the item to the scammer.

    Ngayon, medyo elaborate na. Kelangan na ng "matrix" para maintindihan


    Well explained. Pwedeng pwede nga naman gawin to. Ingat ingat sa mga buyer.
    Best pa rin pag meet up.
  • and banks had cctv's to prove who deposited it para mahuli kung sino talaga nangiiscam.
  • Napaniwala ng scammer yung victim na sya yung recipient. Ganito yan, example sa TPC. merong kilalang seller daming feedback. Nagpanggap yung scammer na sya yung TPC seller na yon. Convincing sigurado yung scammer kaya the vic trusted the guy, kaya nagpadala ng 50k. Before that, kinausap nya rin yung seller na may bibilhin kuno. Pakilala nya naman sya yung victim. Then sinabi nya nagkamali sya ng padala. Imbes na 500 eh naging 50k. Ipabalik na lang dun sa other acct nya na in reality is his real bank acct.


    +1

    Didn't realize something like this can happen, thumbs up for citing an e.g.
  • "Hello, ako po ay tumawag dahil napag-utusan po ako na patayin ka, ngunit nag iba po ang isip ng kausap ko at pinadadamay na nya buong pamilya mo. Kaya ako tumatawag sayo kasi andyan na mga tao ko sa paligid mo."

    Does this sound familiar?

    If it does, it must be because you have encountered this spiel from our neighborhood BPO Scammer Inc. (I just made that up because I imagine these guys sitting on swivel chairs with desks with mobile phones in hand busy scamming everyone. :D ). There's a new scam in town and it feeds on your fears.

    I found out about it because a friend of mine called me up the other day to ask if I knew someone who can help her. Being the funny girl that she is, I first laughed it off but then I became serious when I noticed that she was serious when she said that she was scared.

    I asked her what the details of the calls were as well as the conversations they had. When I heard the whole story, I told her that it's reeking of scam but I wanted to pacify her fears so I gave my cousin's number who in turn gave her his friend's number from the NBI.

    These people will continuously harass you and tell you that they will kill you and your family. And then they will say that naaawa sila sayo kaya hihingi na lang silang pera para pamasahe ng mga tao nya palayo para pag nalaman ng kliyente na hndi nila pinatay, malayo na sila. They will also ask a specific amount ranging from P20, 000 - P100,000 depending on your gullibility and intensity of fear. Then they will ask you to send it to Palawan Express. They will also establish more "proof" that they're authentic by telling you your name and the street you're at or the street where you work or live. And I think it's most probably they get these details from your online breadcrumbs or if they have a certain gadget. I don't know, they get sophisticated every time.

    I gave her a few points on why I think it's a scam (I'm not going to share it here because some scammers might get an idea and revise their script :P ).

    My friend almost paid them but good thing she asked a few questions first before she did it and that's when she finally believed me that it was indeed a scam.

    I also asked her to go to the nearest police station and report it so that they will have a record, advised her to call the number of the NBI guy that my cousin gave because it's the NBI's turf -- catching these scammers.

    I am writing this to warn everyone. Also attached photos of the texts. My friend also did her research afterwards and found out that they already victimized a lot of people. You can Google these things. So, beware.

    QUICK TIP:

    1. Never ever expose your password.
    2. Always log out on all your online accounts.
    3. Never ever put online your personal details unless the site is reputable and heavy in security.!



  • Mga oportunista lang mga yan. Sumasakay sa kaliwat kanang patayan nangyayari ngayon. Madaling paniwalaan sa baba ng halaga ng buhay sa pinas ngayon. Pati si duterte napraning na sa patayan. Di na drug lords ngayon nagpapapatay sa kanya, CIA na raw. :D