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  • Ang bilis ng shipping sa Amazon. Initially sabi November 16 pa pero nagulat ako andito na ngayon lang sa bahay namin yung SSD. Only took around 8 days. Wala syang box, napasimple lang ng packaging parang packaging ng SD card lang. Already tested it via OTG and enclosure (just to test if its working) but not yet sa computer as parating pa lang yung laptop na inorder ko din sa US.




  • anong enclosure gamit mo boss? amazon din or local lang?
  • Has anyone tried using the Intel Optane M10 in an USB 3.0 NVMe enclosure?`
  • anong enclosure gamit mo boss? amazon din or local lang?


    Local lang from shxpxx. Orico m.2 nvme enclosure. 350 pesos.
  • maaga din dumating yung P5 Plus ko. 8th-Nov pa dapat darating. Pero kahapon natanggap ko na. Nagulat ako may tumatawag na ninjavan.
  • balak ko bumili ng 4 SSD PCIE adapter.... dahil sa lintek na starfield na yan... haha.

    May nakita ako sa shxpxx na 4 ssd adapter, full PCIE card siya, legit kaya ito? sabi kaya apat na SSD at the same time.

    ito balak ko: <click here for link>

    gamit ko yung isahan na PCIE adapter working naman, di lang ito bootable... gusto ko sana apat para pag naubusan ng space sa ssd ko, may slot agad na di na gagamit ng nvme sa board.. ^_^
  • ^Before you buy, even if your board has multiple PCIe slots, check mo din yung allocated bandwidth for each slots and also if your board supports PCIe bifurcation.

    Ganto kasi yan, halimbawa sa board ko, yung top slot pag gamit na ng GPU, the second slot magiging x8 na lang ang bandwidth. In other boards, nagiging x8 both sa GPU and second slot. You have to read your boards manual and check if kahit may GPU ba, full x16 lanes pa din gagamitin ng next slot mo but that is usually reserved for pro boards.

    x8 is fine sakin both sa GPU at PCIe, the next problem is if your board supports bifurcation (which you have to enable sa BIOS). What bifurcation does is it splits that x16 to four x4 (para sa apat na nvme) or in my case, x8 into two x4 para sa dalawa kong extra nvme. One of the best board as an example here is yung Asus Pro Art series na boards.

    Assuming walang bifurcation yung board mo, pag sinaksak mo na yung pcie adapter mo with the 4 nvmes, isa lang madedetect.
    Also, from what I know, if you're on zen 4 like me, usually ang config ng current boards is that kahit may full pcie slot yung board mo, like the top is x16 while the bottom is usually x4 na lang yung pcie lane, there is no option to split that x4 lane to two x2. Sa ibang boards, with x16 and x4 full slot, sa x16 lane na slot lang pwede magbifurcate that is if that board even has the option for bifurcation. Nung naka Zen3 pa ko before na B550 when I use a GPU, both slots ko nagiging X8 (gen4 sa top and x8 gen3 speed sa bottom) which is good na for 2 gen3 nvme.

    So do check first the manual of your board. Kasi sa dami ko nabili before, akala ko not working lahat as isa lang nadedetect na nvme, yun pala working talaga lahat, di lang ako nagresearch about my board.

    Dun sa shinare mo na adapter, probably pang PCIe gen3 speeds lang sya. Kasi the PCIe 4 port ones, may fan and heatsink dun sa controller usually dahil sa init. It can support Gen4 nvme pero baka nerfed yung speed. If gen3 nvme naman then no problem.
  • @boinkeru
    Parang ndi naman totoo yan, on my z790 I have 5 pcs na NVME drives (4xgen 4 and 1xgen 3)..all working good naman, no slow downs like the one you bizaarely posted on the AMD thread.

    On my AMD Ryzen 9 5900x server with an Asus Crosshair 8 Dark Hero board serving me as a dedicated NAS, Plex and home lab server wala din issues with 3x NVME’s (gen4)on board and another 2 on the ROG hyper m.2 (gen3)card meron din ako na x1 lane with 2xm.2 ngff drives, lahat accessible sa network at full speeds and saturated 2.5gbe bandwidth along side pa yun sa 6x4TB Enterprise drives.

    -- edited by rootintootinputin on Nov 07 2023, 01:39 AM
  • Parang ndi naman totoo yan, on my z790 I have 5 pcs na NVME drives (4xgen 4 and 1xgen 3)..all working good naman, no slow downs like the one you bizaarely posted on the AMD thread.


    First, Wala naman issue sa nvme ng pc ko and its not an ssd issue. Its something else kasi pag nagdodownload ako or anything read or write intensive, wala naman issue sa pc ko, its just that pag image heavy na yung site mabagal na magload yung page.
    Highly doubt na its due to nvme/ssd when I already tried different configs and tried switching nvme's with my laptop as well.

    Second, totoo yung sa pcie lane allocation.

    Your Asus Crosshair 8 dark hero yes while it does support pcie4 na m.2, fixed na allocated yung lanes nun wala na mababawas na lane dun kahit punuin mo pa lahat. Pero if you used yung dalawang full size pcie x16 slot mo, magiging dalawang x8 config na lang yun. Andun yun mismo yung config nakalagay sa website ng board mo:

    2 x PCIe 4.0 x16 Safeslots (x16, x8/x8) [CPU]
    ? 1 x PCIe 4.0 x16 slot (x4)
    ? 1 x PCIe 4.0 x1 slot

    In this case, yung third PCIe slot mo na full size, x4 lang lane nun, which is enough for one PCIe gen 4 nvme (via a single adapter).
    Dun naman sa dalawa mong x16 slots, assuming na may GPU sa first one and yung Hyper M.2 mo nasa second slot, magiging x8 na lang both yung slots. And since the hyper m.2 supports an x4 + x4 config kaya pwede up to 2 dun sa hyper m.2 mo.

    Pero from what I know, hindi pwede ang apat jan pag x8 na lang allocated na lanes mo. It can't work as x2 + x2 +x2 +x2. But on your configuration, its fine kasi either way, gen 3 lang naman si hyper m.2 adapter mo and you'll still be getting the full speed.

    meron din ako na x1 lane with 2xm.2 ngff drives

    This I have a trouble believing na full speed pa din sa x1 lane mo tapos 2 drives, bandwidth constrained na yan eh. Alam ko di ka pwede magbifurcate on an x1 lane pati.

    Anyways, what I'm telling redwing kasi is that not all of us have a beefy board or nakalatest gen. Usually most of us are using budget boards that doesn't have enough pcie lanes nor support bifurcation. hence kaya sinasabi ko na check muna nya yung manual nya just to be sure kasi if he's going to expect na just popping in 4 nvme's on a single pcie slot tapos yung board nya does not support bifurcation, eh di din mababasa yung drives nya.

    I'm speaking as per my experience having a budget Asus B550-E before where in 1. hindi enabled by default ang bifurcation and 2., dalawang nvme lang yung pwepwede sa second slot if may gpu na sa first slot mo.

    Sa mga budget B650 ngayon, if you check yung mga specs nila, sa first slot lang pwede magbifurcate (if may option man, usually halos wala or depende na sa board) tapos if yung first slot is already used by the gpu, nagiging x4 na lang yung speed ng second slot mo and you can't bifurcate on that one to even use a dual m.2 adapter. Actually wala ako halos makitang board na may bifurcation sa second slot except for the pro art series and I think another one from gigabyte.
  • @boinkeru
    May 3rd party controller, asmedia sya if not mistaken (for the x1 lane).

    Asus has a micro site for all their boards that supports bifurcation and how to get a hold of that setting sa bios.

    The B550-F that I used to own had bifurcation for the 1st slot, how come the E variant has none? Eh mas premium yun vs the F?

    Sa case ko kase, gen 4 si hyper m.2 card ko, 1st pcie lane ko kase is for the dedicated transcoding gpu (intel arc) which just runs on x8 gen 4, kaya it was kinda perfect to utilize the 2nd pcie slot which now has x8 lane as well for the hyper m.2, and lastly, tama ka, the last pcie slot running x4 has a gen4 adapter to it kaya nakapaglagay pa ako don.

    -- edited by rootintootinputin on Nov 07 2023, 03:27 PM
  • The B550-F that I used to own had bifurcation for the 1st slot, how come the E variant has none? Eh mas premium yun vs the F?


    The B550E has bifurcation, andun sya sa pinost ko earlier its just that its not enabled in the bios by default. Probably sa ibang bios its enabled by default but not with mine kasi by default, nakaset sa RAID yung nasa BIOS ko for the drop down/selection entry.

    Also, if napuno na halos lahat ng m.2 slots (also happens in B650, but not in X650) may mga PCIE lanes usually na nadidisable. Including the 3rd full PCIe slot if the board has 3. Usually pati x1 slots nadadamay as well as SATA slots din.

    Dun sa Gigabyte na B650E board ko ganun nangyari actually, once napuno ko na yung lahat ng m.2 slots, may mga PCIE and sata lanes na nadisable and since yung second slot is electrically x4, bifurcation can only happen sa first slot so sa case ko, 1 nvme adapter na lang yung pwepwede dun.

    Sa B550E board ko before since electrically it can work both as X16 and X8 (once the first slot is taken) pwede pa din sya for bifurcation sa second slot as x4+x4 as mentioned initially sa earlier reply ko. Sa B550F you can only do that in the first slot which you already mentioned.
  • anong brand reliable and cheap na SSD sata or M2? Yung sa officemate ko na brand Team M.2 ay ayaw na mag write after 1yr+.
  • ^i have both SATA & M.2 from kingston. the former now going 5yrs and still doing great. the latter @ 3yrs and not having any hiccups so far.
    tho other known brands claimed a tad faster but i'm happy enough how kingston does.
    crucial SSDs are good too if you can get it for cheap.
  • ^ thank you. sana lang hindi fake mabili ko hehe
  • @piLio
    pag mga SSD na 1-2TB, mas mura sa tribe ni WonderWoman. Nakaka dalawa nakong bili thru that platform. Cheaper by almost 1k to 1.5k.
  • @blue_apple_pencil

    thank you!

    -- edited by piLio on Feb 07 2024, 11:26 AM
  • Help po regarding my issue in my nvme

    can't enter BIOS if nvme installed.
    board is Asus prime b450m II.
    nvme is wd green sn350 x4 pcie 3.0
    if no nvme is inserted I can enter BIOS.
    unfortunately I don't have other parts to test with.
  • can't enter BIOS if nvme installed.
    board is Asus prime b450m II.
    nvme is wd green sn350 x4 pcie 3.0
    if no nvme is inserted I can enter BIOS.
    unfortunately I don't have other parts to test with.


    i've experienced this with the same Asus Prime b450m ii board before.

    Up!

  • i've experienced this with the same Asus Prime b450m ii board before.

    Up!


    what was your solution? I was digging through other forums and I'm thingking this happens way to often to Asus & WD nvme combo. I think I found like 10 or more cases like this.

    I was able to borrow today an external nvme enclosure from a pc repairman near me. We will test this in a while. will give updates once we find the culprit.

    -- edited by mlorenzo88 on Mar 19 2024, 10:18 PM

    -- edited by mlorenzo88 on Mar 19 2024, 10:18 PM

    -- edited by mlorenzo88 on Mar 19 2024, 10:18 PM
  • The culprit was my Keyboard. the only keyboard I have is a 60% keyboard. (need to press both FN and Del or FN and F2) to go to bios. I'm not sure why but the BIOS does not detect the FN keys if the nvme is inserted. but I'm able to access the BIOS if there are no NVME.
  • The culprit was my Keyboard.


    And that's why I'm not into those minimalist keyboards. I just remembered that one of my friends encountered a similar issue with a mechanical keyboard (Fn layer not detected at BIOS).
  • hi guys, will the crucial p3 plus be ok as a OS drive?
  • what was your solution? I was digging through other forums and I'm thingking this happens way to often to Asus & WD nvme combo. I think I found like 10 or more cases like this.

    I was able to borrow today an external nvme enclosure from a pc repairman near me. We will test this in a while. will give updates once we find the culprit


    SLR, had to install nvme without ssd and hdd. then once OS was done, installed ssd, then install hdd one by one.

    yung sa hdd need pa ng Disc Management para ma detect, isa pa yun kala ko sira na 2TB hdd.
  • RuZuCoE
    hi guys, will the crucial p3 plus be ok as a OS drive?


    i would go for it IF i need one. 1TB ssd with a good brand for less than 5K(?) isn't bad at all either.
  • But isn't the P3 Plus a QLC drive?
  • But isn't the P3 Plus a QLC drive?


    me tbh: QLC drive what,,,? :)
    and i found out that it wasn't, here's a short list which are;

    Intel’s 3D NAND QLC
    SP’s 2-TB flash memory drive
    Samsung’s 870 QVO Sata III
    Western Digital’s WD Blue SN550
    The SK hynix Gold S31 SSD
    Micron’s 5210 Ion SSD

    <click here for link>

    and just thought that it wasn't bad at all if it's a QLC drive.

    at kasama rin naman pala sa best SSds of 2024 si crucial P3 plus <click here for link>

    -- edited by statix on Apr 07 2024, 01:37 AM
  • Tom's Hardware review explicitly mentions the P3 Plus having QLC NAND: <click here for link>

    Also, your link mentions the Crucial P3 as the best budget M.2 SSD, not the P3 Plus.
  • ^my bad. i stand corrected :)
    hmmm,,, now i could be worried with QLC drives' durability then. would you bro?
    this is somewhat interesting.
  • For me, a QLC SSD is a big no-no for an OS drive.
  • ^thank you.