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DC Inverter Aircon Users (Roundup in Page 1 & 420)

  • With so many people dropping by asking for recommendations, naisip ko na gumawa ng mini-roundup ng 1hp inverter aircons to help potential buyers come to a decision sooner.. This is by no means an authoritative guide, so please take it with a grain of salt.. First part is for Window-Type and the second part is for Basic Split-Type units.

    So here is my roundup of the 1HP window-type inverters that are currently available in the market.. (in no particular order!)

    1. Panasonic CW-XS108VPH <click here for link> This thing should be on top of any buyer's list. Despite being overdue for a compressor (and refrigerant) update, this thing is still one mean dual fan machine that leads the market in durability and value. I’ve seen this unit being sold for 28k which leads me to think that they will be replacing this unit soon.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.8
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 375 x 700

    2. LG LA100WC/EC <click here for link> LG's compact unit has a lot of features in a small package. Wifi, Dry Mode, and even Sleep Mode that you will usually find only on a split-type unit are standard. Efficiency is a bit low which is typical of compact units. BTW, it has a 0.75hp sibling in case your room is a bit on the small side.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.1
    Refrigerant - R32
    Size (WxHxD) - 497 x 317 x 623

    3. LG LA100WL/EL <click here for link> Of course LG also has a full-sized unit that has high efficiency values on top of wifi, dry mode, and sleep modes. Great value unit in spite of not having an auto air swing!
    EER (KJ/HW) - 12.42
    Refrigerant - R32
    Size (WxHxD) - 600 x 380 x 630

    4. Koppel KV09WR-ARF31 <click here for link> Homegrown aircon manufacturer Koppel joins the fray with their own high-efficiency unit. They're not cheap but they're plenty powerful. Be warned as a busted PCB can easily set you back by 20k resulting in a spectacular loss for anybody.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.5
    Refrigerant - R32
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 400 x 670

    5. Gree KX-25i / U-J09-6DR <click here for link> Chinese aircon leader Gree has the local distinction of being the most rebadged unit available. Boasting of Panasonic compressors, these units are no slouches in the performance and durability departments.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.82
    Refrigerant - R32
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 375 x 708
    Known variants: KOLIN KAG-110RSINV 1.0 HP; Everest ETIV10AWD/G 1HP; Sharp AF-X10SCF 1HP; FUJIDENZO IWAR-90G 1.0 HP; Tosot TJC09VRZ; American Home AHAC-WTI1000IOX; Imarflex IAC-100WRi-KA; Unitech 1HP <-- Cheapest 1HP window-type inverter in the country with limited stocks remaining!

    6. TCL TAC-09CWI/W <click here for link> TCL is the second most affordable unit in our roundup; it won't burn a huge hole in your pocket, but will require the largest hole in your wall as It's as big and powerful as the 1.5HP of other brands. Get it while it's still cheap!
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.3
    Refrigerant - R32
    Size (WxHxD) - 660 x 430 x 680

    7. Hyundai HAC-W10INV-A <click here for link> New market entrant Hyundai is one of Korea's oldest brands though they're not that well known here for appliances. My gut is telling me that this aircon is internally the same with the Koppel units. Both are available only in 1hp and 1.5hp, and the buttons and LED lights on the panel are somewhat similar.. Either Koppel makes these, or both the Koppel and the Hyundai come from the same mystery OEM! Hmm..
    EER (KJ/HW) - 12.96 (from Matrix site)
    Refrigerant - R32 (from Matrix site)
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 400 x 670
    Update: I just saw a rebadged Hyundai being sold as a Matrix Mx-INV1100 for only 18.6k! That is hella cheap!

    8. Hitachi RA-10HVQ <click here for link> This is Hitachi's uber compact unit that still has more impressive numbers than the LG compact. Dual fans, dry mode, and unique metallic blue finish highlight this unit. Be warned however that there have been owners who reported having multiple issues that run up costs to the tens of thousands. BTW, it also has a 0.75hp sibling in case your room is a bit on the small side.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 12.3
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 470 x 340 x 600

    9. Hitachi RA-10HV <click here for link> The company that sold the first window-type inverter aircon in the local market has gone a long way down from the top. Current units no longer have the heater function and are a lot cheaper than when they first came out. Dual fans, dry mode, and unique aesthetics highlight this unit. Efficiency ratings are top notch but be warned that there have been owners who have reported costly PCB failures.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.5
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 600 x 410 x 795

    10. Hitachi RA-10HSV <click here for link> Hitachi intends to further solidify their hold on the compact segment by releasing the slightly cheaper HSV variant. Highly likely a single fan unit to cut costs, it is definitely more affordable and even has 0.60HP and 0.75HP capacities for small rooms. Looks promising!
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.9
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 470 x 340 x 600

    11. Fujiair FWI-29CSI <click here for link> Another new entry in the local market is this unknown Japanese brand which makes its units in Thailand and China. There's very little to go on about it as there is scant info available on the web. Not very promising as they're still using R410a when everybody else is switching to R32. BTW, they also have a 0.75hp unit but it uses the same chassis.
    EER (KJ/HW) - no data
    Refrigerant - R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 400 x 630

    12. Midea FP-51ARA010HEIV-N4 <click here for link> The Chinese OEM of Concepcion Industries flexes their muscle with this updated no-frills unit. Very efficient yet very affordable, it actually presents a very attractive proposition for any buyer.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.0
    Refrigerant - R32
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 400 x 670

    13. Carrier WCARH009EEV <click here for link> The flagship brand of Concepcion Industries sells a value-packed unit with Premium Filter, Sleep Mode, Dry Mode, Econo mode, and even throws in their patented ESP (energy-saving plug) for good measure! Aside from lagging behind in environmental friendliness, their units are on the pricey side despite having Midea components.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.36 (converted from 13.3 SEER)
    Refrigerant - R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 375 x 637

    14. Condura WCONH09EEVI <click here for link> The stripped down version of the Carrier unit is a no-frills unit that practically looks the same. Good thing they didn't remove the ESP! Sadly, it's still on the expensive side when compared to the other units available in the local market.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.36 (converted from 13.3 SEER)
    Refrigerant - R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 560 x 375 x 637

    Reminder: Be aware that upgrading from a conventional unit to an inverter unit can be a bit of a challenge. You will still need to add some allowance to your installation hole as these units are bigger and need to be installed at a backward 5deg tilt to allow for good drainage. Also, if your old aircon didn't need a support bracket, these units need one as they can be very long and heavy. Lastly, if your room doesn’t have an aircon outlet with a dedicated breaker at the distribution panel, you will most likely need to have an isolation breaker and supply line installed by a competent electrician.

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    Split-type aircons have gone a long way from the chunky cooling boxes that just cooled your room. Today's basic units have smart features that window-types can only wish they could offer. Some standard features are: Econo Mode, Sleep Mode, Dry Mode, Auto mode, Timer modes, Soft Startup, and even smart protections that keeps it running for a short while after you turn it off.

    The first part was a mini-roundup of window-types to help potential buyers.. This part is for split-type units. Again, this is by no means an authoritative guide, so please take it with a grain of salt.. The following is my roundup of the BASIC / STANDARD 1HP split-type inverters that are currently available in the market. If you're looking for premium models, this is not the roundup for you.. (in no particular order!)

    1. Mitsubishi SRK10YL-S / SRC10YL-S <click here for link> Mitsubishi is crawling back into the RAC (Residential Air Conditioner) market with designs that your tito would surely fawn over. They might not be much to look at, but you can be sure that they will get the job done.
    EER (KJ/HW) – 12.7
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features – It’s a Japanese brand

    2. Gree U-W09-3DR <click here for link> Gree split-type units are also some of the most commonly-rebadged units on the local market. Gree-branded units don't come cheap as these are the current-generation units while rebadged units are typically 1 generation older. Rebadged Gree Livo units can be as cheap as 21k!
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.55
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - Also available in Black;

    3. Panasonic Aero Standard CS-PU9VKQ <click here for link> It's not pretty. It's not cheap. But it sure is efficient at cooling your room! It's not much of a looker, but you can be sure it's a performer!
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.64
    Refrigerant – R32
    Notable features - It's made by Panasonic, it must be good!

    4. LG HSN09ISS <click here for link> LG goes on the offensive with their white plastic box. Armed with an efficient compressor, this highly understated unit is a market favorite thanks to its competitive pricing. Be warned however that LG units can be prone to minor problems that can be annoying but fixable. You're almost sure to call in a service technician at some point of its service life. Good thing that LG parts are comparatively cheaper and won't really cost too much to repair.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 12.6
    Refrigerant – R32
    Notable features - Diagonal squirrel fan; Dual-rotary compressor; 10-years compressor warranty

    5. Daikin D-Smart FTKC25QVM <click here for link> This is the basic D-Smart unit that will allow you to experience what it's like to own a Daikin. It's not smart like Nicola Tesla, but smart enough to answer your cooling needs without you worrying about anything else. Pricey but worth it!
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.72
    Refrigerant – R32
    Notable features - 0.75HP variant; Wide operating voltage

    6. Daikin D-Compact FTWK25AXVL <click here for link> This unit was initially marketed as a direct upgrade to window-type aircons because it had an outdoor unit so compact that you could could use it to cover the hole of an old window-type aircon. What they didn't say was that it was wider than any window aircon out there so you still needed to mount it elsewhere. Aside from that, it will definitely cool your room.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.16
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - 0.75HP variant, Smallest outdoor unit

    7. Midea FP-53AST010KEIV-W4 / FP-53AST010KEIV-B4 <click here for link> The Chinese OEM of Concepcion Industries shows off their basic inverter unit with its high EER and 2 color choices. They're not cheap but aftersales support is very strong thanks to local partner Concepcion Industries.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.1
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - Available in Genesis White and Mirror Black

    8. Samsung Standard Inverter AR09MVFHHWKNTC <click here for link> Samsung's basic inverter unit is as basic as they come. Cheap price with low efficiency. They ditched the triangle design for a more conventional one with not much else on offer.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 10
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - none;

    9. Samsung Basic S-Inverter AR09TYHYEWKNTC <click here for link> Looking for something cheap? Then look no further! At a little below 20k, this is definitely Samsung's assault at the local aircon market. Cheap as it is, EER is a bit low. Tempting? Surely. But be warned that you often get what you paid for in the end..
    EER (KJ/HW) - 10.8
    Refrigerant – R32
    Notable features - Triangle design; Durafin flat pipes; 10-years compressor warranty

    10. Condura Prima Max Inverter FP-53KXV009313 <click here for link> Budget brand Condura touts this as proudly made (assembled?) by Filipinos.. though most probably with Chinese-made Midea components.. It has decent figures but is being sold for an arm and half a leg despite being locally made. Build quality is decent but the price is just a buzz-kill.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.1
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - Made by Filipinos for Filipinos!

    11. Hitachi Royal RAS-10HTP <click here for link> Philippine assembled Hitachi is touted as using "Full DC" but still needs to be connected to AC mains to work. The unit's stellar EER rating is really something to marvel at. Sadly it's not as attractive as their window-type aircon but at least it doesn't look like something that came out of a Chinese factory.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.8
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - 0.75HP variant

    12. Carrier Alpha FP-53GCVBE010-303P <click here for link> Carrier's basic unit isn't so bad. It's actually priced cheaper at 32k than their window-type aircon! Sadly though, there are a lot of cheaper options that are more efficient. But if you factor in their nationwide network of service centers, owning one can be a worry free experience.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.8
    Refrigerant - R32
    Notable features - Double clean system

    13. Carrier Crystal 2 FP-53GCVBS010 <click here for link> The old Crystal unit looked like an Alpha fitted with a 3k premium filter. So they came out with a chunkier looking unit but with a lower price tag than the outgoing model. This is a basic unit that is specifically marketed for families with sensitive babies or for people that have immuno-compromised respiratory systems.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.9
    Refrigerant - R32
    Notable features - Double clean system; Premium air filter

    14. Haier HSU-10TSV13(DC)-SC <click here for link> Haier is better known in the PHL for cheap TV's and Refrigerators. This aircon however is NOT cheap (33.6k) but a look at that EER should be enough to get you interested. Availability is low so expect also to have problems later on with parts and service as there are probably few authorized service centers at this time.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.5
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - All copper pipes

    15. Kolin KSM-IW10-6H1M <click here for link> Concepcion Industries' sub-brand ensures their presence in the sub-30k segment with this 28k unit. Clearly a rebadged Midea but with a decent price, the ionizer that is usually found on premium units is a smart move for the brand. Not bad actually. It just might cost a pretty penny to have it installed though..
    EER (KJ/HW) - 12.6
    Refrigerant - R410a
    Notable features - Ionizer

    16. Hyundai HAC-DC10C <click here for link> New market entrant Hyundai is actually one of Korea's oldest brands. They don't seem to be rebadged Koppel units unlike their window-types. But with efficiency values that low, they'd have to be priced like Samsung's basic unit in order to attract some attention. Did you notice that this unit looks a lot like the Kolin unit with that red strip?
    EER (KJ/HW) - 10.98
    Refrigerant – no data
    Notable features - none

    17. AUX F-Series ASW-09A2 FADI <click here for link> Newcomer from China is out to prove themselves in the local market. At 27k, these guys have an uphill battle especially against units from Gree, Samsung, and LG. Early adopter feedback is positive so far and they have yet to become more visible at appliance stores.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.6
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - none

    18. Hisense AS-09TR2S <click here for link> This brand is better known for their affordable TV's but is quite a big company in China where it came from. This unit is rather affordable as there was a cash buyer who paid just 21.2k for his unit. Still very limited availability unlike their TV's.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 13.5
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - none

    19. Whirlpool SIA90B <click here for link> American appliance brand Whirlpool is down to pasting their brand on Chinese oem appliances. This is a rebadged Hisense unit after a thorough google search of their remote. Dunno about parts availability as there might not be that many authorized service centers outside of Metro Manila. And just like the Hisense unit, this isn't cheap at 31.5k cash.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.09
    Refrigerant - R410a
    Notable features - 1w standby power; 3-in-1 filter

    20. Chigo Pura CHG-S156I100A <click here for link> Instead of the standard white boxes, Chigo sells some rather curvy evaporator units for 27k. Still a lot cheaper than the Midea and Haier units.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 12.95
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features -High density Vitamin C filter

    21. Sharp AH-XP10VF <click here for link> This must be the cheapest Japanese-branded aircon in this roundup. At only 26k, it even comes with free installation thrown in for good measure. Sharp isn't known for excellent aircons in the PHL, but in Japan it's one of the most trusted appliance brands.
    EER (KJ/HW) - no data
    Refrigerant – R32
    Notable features - 0.5ºC Temperature Increments

    22. TCL TAC-09CSA/KEI <click here for link> If the posted price from Asian Home is to be taken at face value, then this is probably the second cheapest inverter split-type aircon in the local market! I think it's slightly better in quality than Samsung's basic unit, but with few authorized service centers buyers might have some trouble later on getting parts and service.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.6
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - Wide operational voltage;

    23. Koppel Super Inverter KV09WM-ARF21C2 <click here for link> Homegrown aircon manufacturer Koppel doesn't sell a premium unit for the residential market and is more visible in the commercial market. Their filter seems to be the same as the one on the Chigo Pura and is priced similarly too at 27.5k! I came across an owner who swears that this aircon is absolute rubbish. Be warned.
    EER (KJ/HW) - 12
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Notable features - Hydrophyllic fins; High Density Vitamin C filter

    What about the other brands like Imarflex, Qube, Everest, Fujidenzo, American Home, Unitech, Tosot, Matrix, etc.? They're all just pasting their brand names onto oem units from the Chinese makes. Are they any good? They're not bad actually. Remember that China has been manufacturing most of the world's equipment for the past two decades and product quality has steadily risen since. Now if you really want to find out the oem of the rebadged unit in question, all you have to do is to search the internet for what brand has a matching remote control. Another technique would be to scour the archives of Chinese manufacturers and have a look at the units that they sold in the past years as rebadged units are often from previous product generation of those manufacturers.

    Reminder: Be aware that buying a split-type aircon costs more than just the sticker price. Some units come with “free installation” while many do not. Also, be prepared to shell out more cash for the: 1. delivery charge; 2. supply wire; 3. isolation breaker; 4. outdoor unit mounting bracket; 5. excess copper tubing; 6. PVC drain pipe; 7. Masonry works. Make sure to ask the seller as to what are included and what are not. =)


    As of June 04, 2020


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    DC Inverter Split Type Aircon Users (Panasonic, Kolin and Hitachi)

    i\'ve been canvassing for a week now for a Inverter Split Type Aircon..
    gusto ko kasing palitan yung aircon ko na 2hp na Markes Split Type Standard aircon at 1.5hp Carrier Wall Type aicon ng isang DC Inverter Split Type Aircon..

    ang nacanvass ko

    PANSONIC inverter spit type 1hp 32k
    KOLIN inverter spit type 32k
    HITACHI inverter 1hp nasa 52k

    ang mahal pero 30-40% daw matitipid mo sa electric bill mo

    baka meron sa inyo na gumagamit nito ngayon..

    ano ba magandang bilin?

    -- edited by ninjababez on Jun 24 2020, 12:19 PM
  • saan ka nag canvass bro?

    30 to 40% savings sa energy consumption ay sulit na sulit.

    sana may mag post kung talagang ganun ito katipid.
  • @guitarman
    saan ka nag canvass bro?

    30 to 40% savings sa energy consumption ay sulit na sulit.

    sana may mag post kung talagang ganun ito katipid.


    yung panasonic at kolin sa abenson grandcentral caloocan

    yung hitachi sa sm appliance center
  • opo sir mas matipid po talaga ang aircon pag naka-inverter technology...

    ganito po kasi yun:
    yung old aircon...continuous max speed ang compressor ng aircon..pag na reach na yung temp ng sensor...mag off ito..tapos pag uminit ulit mag turn on ulit sya...

    sa inverter type aircon..yung speed ng compressor controlled using a DC inverter..
    kaya yung speed ng compressor proportional sa ni reregulate nya...

    kumbaga sa kotse..yung old aircon puro primera lang kaya lakas sa gas...
    yung inverter type para syang 5 speed kaya depende sa load nag aadjust sya para efficient sa fuel...

    mas mahal ang inverter aircon kasi mas complicated ang design..yung AC motor kasi mas mahirap controlin ang speed...variable freq ang gamit to adjust the speed of an induction motor..

    -- edited by dx_ONG on Mar 22 2009, 11:34 AM

    -- edited by dx_ONG on Mar 22 2009, 11:35 AM
  • Advice ko lang sir, compute nyo kung gaano kayo kadalas gumamit ng aircon..
    kasi kung di naman madalas ok na yung standard aircon..

    makakatipid kau sa inverter type kung mas madalas nyo ito gamitin as compared to gumamit kayo ng standard aircon.

    kung di nyo gaano nagagamit, tulad nung nandito sa bahay..na dedepreciate sya tapos
    ang mahal pa ng initial cost..so in effect mas medyo mahal sya lalabas..
  • nabasa ko nga may magnet yung motor nito dc nga, kung nasa 30k ito mura pa rin, kasi ako bahay lang nag 5k ang kuryente ko panasonic 1 hp lang gamit ko sa bahay siya ang pinakamatipid ko na aircon, kasi ang sipag mag auto. ano pa kaya kung nakainverter type ako.

    talagang napapaisip ako sa unit na to.

    @ ts, bro yung price nya inclusive of installation?
  • @guitarman
    actually sir it is not a DC motor..yung 220V AC convert muna sa DC tapos po yung DC na ito ay gagawing AC using a switchmode inverter..para po syang PWM..pero constant duty sya with varying frequency..sa induction motor po kasi speed can be controlled by varying the input frequency.

    Yung DC motor po masyadong malaki at mahal for the job..high maintenance pa due to carbon brush..AC induction motor is (wire wound / squirrel cage) is much practical lalo na kung di naman malaki ang demand sa torque..
  • <click here for link>

    @ dx bro dc gamit sa daikin. or iba ang reluctance dc motor?

    bagay ang dc may brush nga yun.

    -- edited by guitarman on Mar 22 2009, 11:49 AM
  • ah ok, so they are using these motors na pala..

    DC reluctance motors are brushless motors po...yung stator po ay coil..yung gumagalaw ay yung magnet na nakakabit sa rotor...para po syang fan ng PC..

    pero to produce a changing magnetic field..need ng stator ang ac kaya need nya ng electronics means to supply an AC voltage sa mga windings...
  • high tech na pala to.

    naghahanap ako ng mga product reviews ngaun ano kay ang pinaka ok na brand?
  • totoo kaya to

    gamit nya panasonic inverter aircon 12hrs / day tapos 1,100 lang na dagdag sa electric bill nya..

    Re: Split Type Aircon: Which is best?

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    i have a panasonic inverter. very energy efficient. we\'re using it 12 hours a day for a month and i\'m only paying an additional php1100 on my electric bill. the cooling system is very stable. unlike the other ac, you feel that the temperature is going cold them a bit warm. although its a bit pricey it\'s still worth it for me.


    source:<click here for link>
  • gamit nya panasonic inverter aircon 12hrs / day tapos 1,100 lang na dagdag sa electric bill nya..


    wow!
  • wala pa bang window-type version na may inverter technology?
  • #artsky
    wala pa bang window-type version na may inverter technology?


    alam ko wala pa..

    bumili kami ng panasonic inverter split type 2 months ago nasa 32k,
    from 4,500 naging 6,500 bill namin sa kuryente 16hours per day naka bukas..

    mag kasing lakas lang sila ng 1hp na window type aircon..

    kaya naka bukas padin bintilador.. pero sulit naman kasi lamiit lang bill sa kuryente
  • @jason patrick

    magkano inabot ng installation? merron na din kasi ang carrier na inverter type. Bka next week pakabit ako.
  • meron na akong nakitang ads ng hitachi na window type using inverter tech kaso mahal. pero ideal ito sa mga laging gumagamit ng a/c tulad ng shops. bawi agad yan.

    parang mas gusto ko yung split type na inverter kasi mas mura.
  • #shibby
    magkano inabot ng installation? merron na din kasi ang carrier na inverter type. Bka next week pakabit ako.


    free ang installation ng panasonic me charge nalang mag may extra tubing na ikakabit..

    #artsky
    meron na akong nakitang ads ng hitachi na window type using inverter tech kaso mahal. pero ideal ito sa mga laging gumagamit ng a/c tulad ng shops. bawi agad yan.

    parang mas gusto ko yung split type na inverter kasi mas mura.


    panasonic inverter split type aircon sure sulit talaga.. nasa 2k lang per month gastos sa kuryente 16hours per day pa gamit..
  • amputha mga installer na yan. Marketing strategy lang nila ang free installation. Marunong ako mag install at mag service ng aircon. Pero di ko pde install ang split a/c kasi ma-void ang warranty kasi di ako accredited installer ng mga manufacturer.

    Ang sistema nila, kesyo free daw ang first 10ft of tubing ,Labor and ek ek etc. Then they (installer) will charge you for the excess tubing which is 300p per ft which is ok lang since nasa 240p ang per feet pag sa supplier ka bumili.


    Tatagain ka nila sa mga small additionals gaya ng bracket mount,breakers ek ek etc. sisingilin ka ng 4000k+ pa! Pag binili mo sa labas mga additional nila eh wala pang 1k! That brings the installation to 5k in total!

    Kesyo me freon charging pa daw ang additional... BS! pre charge na lahat ang Split system, mag dagdag ka lang ng freon pag lumagpas ng 15ft.

    Me installer pa nga na sumisingil sa secretary ko ng 13k! kung nandun lang ako baka nabaril ko yon.

    Hanggang ngayon nakabinbin pa din ang Inverter a/c project ko dahil sa mga timawang installers.

    -- edited by shibby on Dec 21 2009, 11:53 PM
  • Kolin ang cheapest installation na sumingil sa akin. 3.5k for 13ft of installation sa building namin. baka yun na lang ang kunin ko.
  • kung gusto nyo totally free installation mag GREE kayo. lahat na ng needed kasama na so wala na kayong babayaran. yun nga lang hindi ko alam ang tibay nyan at saka wala pa silang inverter type na split.

    nainip na ako sa window type na inverter kaya kumuha na ako ng kolin e-series 1.2HP. preparing for summer hehe.
  • sabi ng nakausap ko regarding sa inverter eh nid daw un atleast 10 hrs ata diretso gamitin bago maging active ung katipiran nya. pag sandali lang daw ginamit parang same lang ng standard na aircon...

    un ang sabi sakin...

    pero owner ako ng inverter na panasonic and standard na panasonic split type AC. malaki ang difference since gamit ko sya sa shop. mas matipid ang inverter kaso mas mahal din mag palinis nito...

    ang prob ko nga ngaun kung saan magaling mag linis ng inverter kasi pag under warranty ung AC halos luhuran para lang puntahan nila para linisin...

    if may info kau bout sa magaling mag linis pa info naman dito... Manila Area...


  • http://panasonic.com.ph/web/ccatId/CatSupport/667
    yan po site ng maintenance nila.. kung ayaw ka puntahan ng maglilinis, itawag mo sa mismong panasonic at ireklamo mo.. tignan mo ko.. kaka reklamo ko, yung installer nabawasan ng 2k installation ko.. kung ano ano kasi nilalagay na hindi naman kailangan.. paglabas ng bill ko, dun natin malalaman kng tipid talaga ito..


    cge sir update mo kami kung magkano bill mo..

    yung sa client ko kasi nasa 3,500 lang daw bill nya 7pcs na CPU with 15pcs na 17\" na LCD kasama na dun yung panasonic aircon inverter.. 10 hours lang daw nya binubuksan 1pm to 10pm lang daily
  • galing ako ng ABENSON Appliance nakita ko meron naring carrier brand na split type inverter aircon.. XPOWER model





  • LG Electronics, the global No. 1 brand in air conditioner for nine straight years, expects to increase its market share in the Philippines by offering the world’s most energy-efficient commercial air conditioner (Multi-V Plus III), as well as LG’s inverter split-type air conditioners with H1N1 (Swine Flu) filter.

    LG’s new air conditioning technologies, showcased at the 12th International Heating, Ventilating, Air-Conditioning, Refrigerating, Filtration and Purification Technology Exhibition and Conference (HVAC/R Philippines 2009) on November 12-15, 2009 at SMX Convention Center, offer high reliability and high eco-design energy efficiency that reduce CO2 emissions.

    \"Launching our advanced MULTI-V Plus III commercial air conditioner and LG’s inverter technology split-type air conditioners into the Philippine market allows LG Electronics to keep more pioneering and encompassing approach to initiate environmental leadership in HVAC industry,\" said Charlie Borbe, business solutions head of LG Electronics Philippines.

    Climate change has become one of the major challenges for mankind and the natural environment. CO2 emissions account for the greatest proportion of this problem. LG air conditioners’ CO2 emissions are controlled throughout their life cycle from design and manufacturing to usage and disposal. “Carbon footprint quantification, analysis and reduction are keys to preventing this, so we have 4 action plans to reduce CO2 emissions, which are eco-designs, high energy efficient products, natural refrigerant-use products, hybrid energy use products,” Borbe explained.

    The new MULTI-V Plus III combines cutting-edge technology and eco-design to deliver innovative comfort solutions that meet the needs of a variety of commercial applications. These include the following: Cyclone Subcooling Interchange has 1,000 meter long piping design to reduce pipe pressure loss; Super Aero Fan creates low noise (5 dB reduction) and high static pressure (max. 8mmAq); BLDC Fan Motor cuts energy consumption by 35% compared to AC Fan Motor; Wide Louver and Gold Fin give the unit a longer life span by improving fin efficiency (23-28%) and high heat transfer; Optimized Cycle Control Technology allows continuous heating during defrost operation; and BLDC Inverter Scroll Compressor and Controller that give 10% and 47% higher energy efficiency than AC inverter compressor at 60Hz and 30Hz, respectively.

    Meanwhile, the new Inverter Split-type Air Conditioner introduces an effective cooling device, as it effectively cools room temperatures on warmer days. This new air conditioning product uses compressor inverter technology that adjusts its cooling capacity to maintain a consistent temperature, increasing energy efficiency compared to conventional split air conditioners. This equates to great savings for its users.

    This new model also creates a clean and relaxing environment through its advanced filtration system and lowest noise levels. This product features an H1N1 (Swine Flu) filter and multi-stage plasma filter that ensure a virus-free and healthy living environment. KITASATO Research Center of Environmental Sciences in Japan tested and certified that the H1N1 Filter was proven effective against Swine Flu.

    Multi-V Plus III commercial and Inverter split-type air conditioners are also displayed in the LG Air Conditioning Academy in Pasig City.

    A first in the Philippines, the state-of-the-art academy focuses on generating and fostering experts in residential and commercial air conditioning products. It has the capability to train hundreds of engineers, contractors and technicians each month.



    napaka mahal nito sigurado

    mga 60-70k isa
  • mas mahal pa sa mga orig na Japan brands? The most expensive inverters i\'ve seen are the Hitachi brands which costs 55thou.
  • updates?
  • mga sir magkano umabot installation sa inyo?
    aabot ng 8k yung installation ng inverter na panasonic, ganun ba talaga kamahal?

    tapos yung size ng room ko 15-16 sq m, pero ang recommend nila 1.5hp kasi daw mataas ceiling, ok lang kaya kung 1hp lang bilin ko?

    advise naman... maraming salamat
  • btw the samsung inverter is just less than 27k excluding the installation.


    kumusta naman po ang performance ng samsung inverter...

    btw mas mura po samsung kesa sa panasonic

    planning to buy 2.5 hp samsung inverter this weekend..
  • panasonic inverter split type price (50% off savings daw):
    34k 1hp
    37k 1.5 hp

    yung newest model nasa 41K yung 1.5hp (60% savings daw)

    worth it ba mag inverter?
    gabi and weekends lang gamit???

    mababawi ba yung extra 10K + installation fee in 5 years time (assuming tatagal aircon ng ganun katagal)
  • bumili na ko kanina, di ko na kaya init ng summer.
    36K kay anson + installation fee
    latest model na rin to, bagong refrigerant na gamit.

    @clickclickclick,
    try niyo rin mag google kasi parang si panasonic so far maraming good comments
    may nabasa ako kay samsung na bad comment eh

    sana ma-install na this weekend... balitaan ko kayo