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TPC Mountain Bikers Thread (FAQ on Page 882)
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sa budget na 40k, ano okay na brand at model? primary use eh pang subdivision na biking lang at UP diliman/chill biking lang sana. 5'7 height. 27.5 ba ang ideal sa akin? Thank you.
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KESPOR CYCLONE NX 27.5 or PINEWOOD Frontier 3.0? ano mas okay? salamat
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not familiar sa kespor ,pero sa 40k meron ng trek ,giant bike na available. marin meron din
im 5"2 but i use 29er small mtb with rigid fork
and size 47 on my touring and gravel bike -
sa budget na 40k
giant talon mtb
marin nicasio gravel
trek marlin mtb
get small frame -
ask lang, balak ko palang bumili, if ok yung ganito sa beginner,
9k price. thanks
FOXTER FT-303+ 29
Specifications:
• Alloy Frame
• Fork with Lock out
• 3x8 Speed
• Shimano Tourney TX Combo Shifters
• FD: Shimano Tourney
• RD: Shimano Tourney
• Foxter Fork with Lock out
• Mechanical Brakes
• Foxter Crankset
• Foxter Cockpit Set
• Foxter Crankset
• Kenda Tires -
^Question is, will you be satisfied with that bike out of the box? Yung hindi ka mate tempt na gumastos agad for upgrades. If yes, go for it.
Pero kung may extra budget ka pa, go for a bike na gusto mo yung look, naka air fork kahit stock lang at naka hydraulic brakes na at least shimano mt200. Kasi kung di ka pa full on sold sa bike na yan, magsasayang ka lang ng pera. -
anu po masuggest nyo, hanggang 15k po budget, salamat.
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@marialigaya
yung first bike ko dati is Jamis x3 trail. stock parts lahat around 15k ko nabili. gamit ko sya pang bike to work, pang exercise / pasyal pasyal within the area. unti unti upgrade ng pyesa kapag nasira / naluma. from stock fork naging epicon, from chopsuey groupset naging slx.
imo test ride mo muna yung 9k bike. kung OK ang fit sa iyo and OK ang ride then go for it. enjoy the ride and paunti unti kung ma-outgrow mo na yung stock parts or may nasira then do the upgrade.
sa ngayon ang gamit ko is Norco 29er. all stock parts and nag upgrade lang ako ng pyesa after 5yrs - from stock fork to rigid fork, mech brake to disk brake, chopsuey shimano to deore -
anu po masuggest nyo, hanggang 15k po budget, salamat.
Well, depende sayo kung saan mo gagamitin eh. Pangte-trail mo ba? or mix of riding? Do you need a front suspension? or parang pang gravel / comfortable type of riding?
For beginner, you may want to check the overall weight of the bike. You might end up with a bike that is too heavy for you to pedal.
I'm not familiar with the local pricing, pero yung mga nakikita ko sa youtube @15K ay pasok na sa budget mo. Check mountain peak which appear to be well-made.
I would also skip this drivetrain, and look for at least an alivio derailleur (or kahit altus) if possible:
• FD: Shimano Tourney
• RD: Shimano Tourney
You can upgrade parts along the way, but that would be more costly and time consuming in the long run.
-- edited by d3rrlck on Oct 12 2021, 11:43 AM -
salamat sa nag reply about tires. Hirap maghanap ng ibang brands dito sa amin halos Maxxis lahat tapos yung iba Compass Billy Goat at Panaracer Comet Hard Pack na folded. May nakita akoa sa online baka Continental Race King na lang bibilhin ko.
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salamat sa mga suggestion, basa basa muna din ako at nood review.. update ako dito pag may nakita.
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ok ba ang folding na CST Jack Rabbit 27.5x2.2.25 tires?
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@all
Quite out of topic.
Just wanna ask kung anong mare-recommend nyong kapote (raincoat)? Price range is around 800 up to 1,500.
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doble ingat po tayo. wag masyado pakampante pag iiwan ang mga bike kahit tanaw pa natin. malingat kala ng ilang segundo wala na bike mo. -
saklap nyan bike mo kaya ako lagi ko hawak bike ko pag nasa shop,. even may paradahan nako lagyan nyo lock or mas maganda may kasama ka para taga tingin sa bike
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Kaya importante na meron din tayo dalang lock
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Continental Race King
eto gamit ko. sobrang sulit for me. good rolling sa paved road, good enough grip sa trail but fast also.
Just wanna ask kung anong mare-recommend nyong kapote (raincoat)? Price range is around 800 up to 1,500.
halos lahat, mababasa ka din. either sa pawis or ulan. i ended up not using any kapote. pag BTW at papasok palang at umulan na, i dont ride. pag pauwi na at inabutan ng ulan, ok lang. sarap actually mag bike ng umuulan(for mtb, bad trip pag RB). incase need mo talaga, yung poncho type, putulan mo lang ng haba baka sumabit sa RD or gulong or matakpan yung rear light mo(very important to have pag umuulan).
re: Lock
Master U lock level 10.
Pro: anti bolt cutter
Cons: heavy(1.2kls)
anu po masuggest nyo, hanggang 15k po budget, salamat.
if sanay ka or may kilala kang ma alam sa bikes, look sa 2nd hand bikes. check mo lang yung mga may paint or cover, minsan may mga loko na seller na tinatago yung sira.
pag brandnew, medyo mabigat na bike ang makukuha mo sa 15k. if babae ka and city ride ka lang, tingin ka ng folding bike kasi madali itukod ang paa pag hihinto ka dahil sa traffic. meron din yan sa mga bagsakan ng bike na 2nd hand, maganda na yung 5k na folding bike.
pag MTB talaga gusto mo(which i personally prefer), no choice ka, usually mabibigat talaga ganyang price range na bike. wag ka nalang mag madali bumili, check mo components(hydraulic brakes, more gears sa likod, replaceable/upgradeable parts). -
yung trek x-caliber 2021 ba eh okay sa panglong ride? thanks.
Product Trek X-Caliber 8 Bike
Model Year 2021
Riding Type Cross Country
Rider Unisex
Sizes and Geometry
XS, SM, MD, ML, LG, XL, XXL View Geometry
Wheel Size 27.5" (650b), 29"
Frame Material Aluminum
Frame Material Details Alpha Gold Aluminum, molded chainstay protection
Rear Travel Hardtail
Rear Shock N/A
Fork RockShox Judy SL, Solo Air spring, TurnKey lockout, 42mm offset
Fork Travel XS: 80mm
SM/MD/ML/LG/XL/XXL: 100mm
Head Tube Diameter Tapered, 1.125" top, 1.5" bottom
Headset Semi-integrated, loose ball bearing
Handlebar Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm clamp diameter, 5mm rise
Width: 690mm (XS), 720mm (SM/MD/ML/LG/XL/XXL)
Stem Bontrager Elite, 31.8mm bar clamp, Blendr compatible, 7° rise
Length: 60mm (XS/SM), 70mm (MD), 80mm (ML/LG), 90mm (XL/XXL)
Grips Bontrager XR Trail Comp, nylon lock-on
Brakes Shimano MT200, 2-piston, Shimano RT26 6-bolt rotors (180mm front, 160mm rear)
Brake Levers Shimano MT200
Drivetrain 1x
Shifters SRAM SX Eagle, 12-speed
Front Derailleur None
Rear Derailleur SRAM SX Eagle, 12-speed
ISCG Tabs No
Chainguide None
Cranks SRAM SX Eagle, GXP, 170mm length (XS/SM), 175mm length (MD/ML/LG/XL/XXL)
Chainrings SRAM SX Eagle, 30 tooth, steel
Bottom Bracket Truvativ PowerSpline, 73mm threaded
Pedals VP-536 nylon platform
Chain SRAM SX Eagle, 12-speed
Cassette SRAM SX Eagle PG-1210, 12-speed, 11-50 tooth
Rims Bontrager Kovee, double-wall, tubeless ready, 28 hole
Hubs Front: Bontrager alloy, 28 hole, sealed bearing, 6-bolt rotor mount, 15x110mm Boost
Rear: Formula DCL-141Q, 28 hole, sealed bearing, 6-bolt rotor mount, Boost141 axle, HG driver
Spokes 14g, stainless steel
Tires Bontrager XR3 Comp, wire bead, 30 TPI, 2.2''
Saddle Bontrager Arvada, steel rails, 138mm width
Seatpost Bontrager alloy, 12mm offset
Length: 330mm (XS/SM), 360mm (MD), 400mm (ML/LG/XL/XXL)
Seatpost Diameter 31.6mm
Seatpost Clamp Quick release
Rear Dropout / Hub Dimensions Boost141 quick release
Max. Tire Size
Bottle Cage Mounts Two inside front triangle
Colors Radioactive Red/Trek Black
Warranty Lifetime frame and wheels; 2 years Trek/Bontrager parts and paint/decals
Weight 30 lb 6.8 oz (13,800 g)
Miscellaneous XS/SM have 27.5" wheels; MD/ML/LG/XL/XXL have 29" wheels
Internal cable routing
Weight given for MD frame with tubes
Includes rack and kickstand mounts -
ok yan. Trek yan eh. Masasabi ko lang sigurado medyo overpriced yan at saka SX lang sana ginawa man lang NX. You're paying for the brand as well, ika nga.
Yung kasamahan ko nga nag lolong ride pauwi sa hometown nya at balik dito sa amin whole day ride walang brake sa harap tapos yung japan surplus steel fullsus pa na bike nag ba bounce-bounce, 36T lang sa likod tapos 3by sa harap na walang FD at shifter mano-mano gamit kamay pag shift. Around 200 kms yun. Iwan kami sa ahon at naging KOM pa sa strava, sa pinakamatinding uphill segment dito sa amin. Bilib talaga ako sa batang yun. Naka alloy frame na ngayon kaya lalo pang tumindi ang padyak.
Yung isang kasamo ko naka GT Avalanche 2020 frame at Sram NX groupset. Ang gaan ng bike nya. Mukhang mas aggressive tingnan pa nga ang GT kaysa sa Trek, tipong trail bike lang talaga pero ginagamit nya yun for long rides (paved and rough roads) at wala namang problema. Pangalawa sya sa mabilis sa ahon, number one pa din yung biker na sinabi ko sa taas.
Sa aking opinion lang naman. Siguro frame is probably not the most important part to consider when buying a bike designed for long rides.
I would consider in the following order:
1. Groupset
2. Brakeset
3. Wheelset
4. Frame
5. Fork (rigid or air fork)
6. Other parts
4 or 5 can be interchangeable. If you're not brand conscious, any frame from reputable brands will suffice. Kasi if you're into long rides bibigat din yang bike mo sa mga gamit na dadalhin mo, so the weight of the frame does not matter. Nagtanong ako kay Doc dati yung kasama ni IanHow kung anong magandang frame because I was contemplating on upgrading it and he suggested Vision which was already the frame I'm using. That's a budget friendly frame and I've used it for around 7,000 km already at Bolany lang yung air fork ko. Mostly trail dahil yung grupo namin mahilig sa bukid na may mga matitinding ahon. Pero marami din long rides sa regular paved roads pero yung merong matinding ahon dahil yun naging trip ng grupo namin.
I'm sure marami pa dito na mas experienced at may alam sa bike or tanong ka sa mga well known vloggers like IanHow or Doc na long rides talaga trip or even FB cycling groups.
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^nakakatuwa nga si doc and ian kaya ako bumili ng bike dahil sa dalawa na yan eh. Pero personally mas gusto ko si doc kasi mas informative sya and mas grounded yung personality nya. Natatawa ako sa falcon gravel bike nya eh. Hindi ka daw nya hahamunin ng karera pero banggaan game sya. hahaha
Pero ako naman trinx lang muna binili ko coz I'm not sure kung magugustuhan ko. Eh nagustuhan ko sa awa ng Diyos 4 months nakaka 1.5k nako and malakilaki na din na gastos sa upgrades. -
Chainrings SRAM SX Eagle, 30 tooth, steel
ok yang 1x setup, sana 32T or 34T para mkahabol din sa tropa. Yung 30T chainring mas suitable sya for trails (off road). -
@imscythe
i bet to disagree
#1 frame, must be fitted sayo/ sukat
gaano ka flexible
200kms if hindi ka comfortable dyan hindi ka tatagal pumadyak,
priority sakin endurance is yung comfort nung frame, saddle, pedals, at handlebar
hindi gaano importante groupet, nasa pumapadyak parin yan kung gaano kalakas, o ka ensayado
#2 wheelset, why? eto yung lumalapat sa road, if mas effective yung tyres mo sa road, slick tyres if road gamit, knobby tyres for trails
as a newbie since 2019, groupset lagi rin ako nakatingin, pero ang totoo every 3-4years nagbabago o nagkakaroon ng update. and i was wrong hindi ako nag aral mabuti about frames, geometry
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^^
Para sakin extra bling lang ang groupset, considered na “consumables” mga yan especially kapag nagttrail ka palagi, di na kelangan mamahalin na derailleur.
Nung pinalitan ko yung wheelset ng bike ko, di ko inaakala na sobrang mararamdaman ko ang difference compared dun sa stock ng mtb ko -
for bike upgrades, based on my experience eto ang ginawa ko -
stock spring fork upgrade to rigid fork
stock mechanical disk brake upgrade to shimano hydraulic brake
chopsuey groupset upgrade to 1x10 shimano groupset -
@evincar
given na yung size ng frame na sukat sayo, Yun naman ang importante. Kahit nagkamali ka ng bili like it's one size smaller than your ideal frame ay pwede pa rin yan. You can easily adjust through your seatpost, stem, saddle mararamdaman at malalaman mo naman yan after several rides. Ang hindi lang advisable is one size bigger kasi hirap na mag adjust kasi fixed na yung frame. Other than that like weight, it's not that important for me. Kasi yung biker pa rin ang pinaka mabigat.
Yung sa groupset naman, I would recommend Deore na 2x10 M4100 para hindi mahal. 1x10 (34T chain ring) nga lang akin. Panatag ka na tatagal talaga at isahang upgrade na lang. Mahigit isang taon ko na gamit ang sa akin, rain or shine, rough road or paved yung performance hindi nag bago at tatlong beses ko lang ata ni tuno yun (minor indexing lang) maliban sa shop noong nagpalit ako ng chain. Advised ko lang talaga regarding dyan is don't mix and match para walang problema. Overkill na masyado para sa akin ang SLX or XT maliban na lang kung hard trail pero long ride naman yung purpose nya. Pag naka Deore ka, panigurado wala ka ng planong mag upgrade. Kaya importante talaga sa akin ang groupset kasi yun ang main component na nagpapatakbo ng bike mo. I used Shimano Tourney TZ before and boy that thing becomes harder to shift over the course of time and tatalon-talon na kaya tuno na naman. Kung below Deore for example, ang daming peke na naglabasan ngayon.
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yung trek x-caliber 2021 ba eh okay sa panglong ride? thanks.
Ano ba chief yung criteria or priority mo for long ride, ano yung mga dadaanan mo, gaano kalayo? Kasi kung hindi ka naman magtrail, eh baka hindi MTB ang sagot sa tanong mo? Are you looking for comfortable ride but slower pace? or looking for something fast to do a long ride in shorter time? or somewhat in the middle?
Personally, nababagalan ako sa MTB for long ride but that's just me. YMMV
Pero kung decided ka na mag-mtb eh...read below
How much is it yung trek? Kung 50K+ yan I won't get it. I would rather get a Devel frame and have it custom build instead. There is really nothing special on that trek, you basically get a heavy frame and an entry level component.
Hubs Front: Bontrager alloy, 28 hole, sealed bearing, 6-bolt rotor mount, 15x110mm Boost
Rear: Formula DCL-141Q, 28 hole, sealed bearing, 6-bolt rotor mount, Boost141 axle, HG driver
...and who uses a QR141 5mm axle nowadays? You'll be stuck with it, and will probably become miserable upgrading your wheelset (if that is your plan). Thing is, this frame is using a non-industry standard rear dropout. Nobody would want it having to deal with subpar conversion kit than a real beefier thru axle.
Lastly, it came with SX RD. Maraming complain sa SRAM SX durability which is described by many as made of tin can. -
There is really nothing special on that trek, you basically get a heavy frame and an entry level component.
totoo yan. overpriced ang trek. pag tinignan mo specs ang olats. mas ok pa mag assemble. -
#1 frame
Agree. Buy the best frame your budget can allow. The rest can be easily upgraded as your skills develop. There's no need to upgrade until your skill exceed the part/s. It amuses me to see high end parts on mediocre frames. The frame is the most important component. Especially for mtb. I wouldn't trust so so frames when I do jumps and drops on the trail. But then if you say pang long ride lang naman, then why get an mtb. Get a road bike. Search for Cycling Connect Japan for very good preloved road bike deals. (Hope this is okay, edit ko na lang if not admin hehe). You can pm me too if you want.
totoo yan. overpriced ang trek. pag tinignan mo specs ang olats. mas ok pa mag assemble.
When I looking to buy my first mtb, sa mga branded na mtb Giant ang isa sa mga sulit na built bikes. For the same budget you will get better specs with Giant. Sa ibang brands kasi may patong na premium sa brand.
You can easily adjust through your seatpost, stem, saddle mararamdaman at malalaman mo naman yan after several rides.
I do not know much sa road bike pero sa mtb very important na tama ang size ng frame mo. Pag nag adjust ka ksi sa seat or sa stem mag-iiba na control mo, which sometimes is not what you want. It's best to get the right size outright. Kaya nga sinasabi namin get the best frame right from the start so that minimal ang adjustment. Pero again, kung pang long ride mo lang naman, then yes it matters much less. - Post deleted #12398948