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Official Virtualization Thread (VMware, Citrix, VirtualBox, Xen, KVM, QEMU, RHEV, Hyper-V, Parallels and etc.)

  • Most financial institutions are using old IT that are not cloud ready. Dagdag mo pa old IT peeps sa mga bank na hindi alam ang cloud. Takot lang sila sa hindi nila alam at hindi kayang matutunan.

    Hindi ko gets kung bakit hindi cost efficient ang cloud sa ERP. Baka may mali sa solution/design.



    1. Hindi sila takot mag cloud bossing, in fact mas gusto nilang mag cloud kasi less management. Regarding sa sagot mo, bakit yung mga bangko ayaw mag cloud? In laymans term nalang, payag ka ba lahat ng financial statement mo naka store sa data center ng ibang company?

    2. Meron kami vcpu 8 cores and 16gb ram - 7 digits singil samin ni AWS per year. Do the math kung naka on premise yung ERP na yan with 50k+ users
  • @tambancat

    i work in a very big financial instution, and i beg to disagree with you, we have all of it, from bare bones, virtualized and cloud, but we don't rely on cloud why?

    - security = very basic, even though you opted for a security camera on your rack in the cloud you still don't know what is running on top of your rack
    - latency = transactions are very sensitive, you squeeze the lowest latency as you can, alam mo naman ang internet sa pinas kahit enterprise grade double digits parin ang latency
    - faster backend connectivity = ito ang pinaka advantage kung nasa tabi mo lang ang server, naka LAN ka lang sa server, alam mo naman siguro ang bandwidth sa pinas at kung gaano ito kamahal, so kung mag rurun ka ng reports e lamang na lamang ang naka local lang.

    may mga banks kaming partners na naka cloud pero hindi lahat ng infrastracture e bagay sa cloud, kaya may mga systems/apps parin sila na self hosted.. hindi lahat ng bagay e bagay sa cloud..

    -- edited by desvillar on Apr 13 2018, 08:38 AM
  • Hi,

    Question lang po regarding VMware Workstation 14
    Ano ang possible issue kapag mas mabilis ang NAT vs sa bridge? Naka set naman po na yung wired LAN as bridge. Kapag NAT yung DL speed ay 90+ Mbps pero kapag NAT nasa 290+ Mbps yung DL speed.
    Yung NIC po ay Intel I219-V
  • @desvillar
    paps yung business people sa back office grabe mag reklamo yun hahaha
  • Hi tpc,

    Ask ko lang, ano components ng home lab nyo and san kayo bumibili ng equipment. I'm planning to build my own lab to play around and test my skills. mag uupdate kase ako ng certification ko for vmware.

    thanks!
  • @dreadjunior
    pwede naman desktop pc, i prefer ryzen para maraming cores tapos supported pa ang ECC type na memory, if beginner ka pa sa pag install ng esxi look for motherboards with INTEL LAN cards, medyo kelangan pa kasi ng tweaking pag REALTEK ang network card kelangan pag mag slipstream ng driver..

    gawa ka atleast 4 pc para ma explore mo ng todo ung vmware like vsan since sa vsan need mo ng minimum 3 host/pc tapos sa pang 4 pc mo lagay ung vcenter.. kaso nga lang 2 months evaluation lang kung di ka bibili ng license
  • @desvillar
    hi sir, thanks sa inputs. medyo advanced na kase yung aaralin ko since i have years of experience na rin sa vsphere environment. i just want to get some info from other tpc members kung ano ang setup nila sa bahay. I have my initial plan na problema ko lang is kung san ko hahanapin ang mga piyesa, lalo na't napakahirap humanap dito sa pinas.

    the setup must consider WAF (wife-acceptance-factors) as well. HAHA
    -less noise
    -less power input
    -portable (must consume small space)
    -cheap <~ this is not possible *haha*

    having those factors while achieving same requirements i need for my infra
    -32GB RAM esx hosts (x3 pc)
    -SSD disks
    -1 NAS for external storage
    -1 switch (managed/unmanaged will do)

    final and proposed setup-----------------------------
    3 pcs Intel NUCs with 32GB RAM with M.2 and SSD as internal storage
    Synology NAS for shared storage
    Gigabit Switch. for network vlans

    does anyone have this same setup? or may mas better pa?
  • intel nuc's are not bad choice, if wala ka naman i loload na heavy, ang magiging problem mo lang is 10gb switch i'm not quite sure if pwede parin mapatakbo sa 1gb switch ang vsan also may minimum na 3 disk per host si vsan..

    you can skip vsan pero isa kasi ito ngaun sa highlights ni vmware kaya maganda ito mapag aralan, features like resource pool, vAPP and FTT(failure to tolerate)

    also make it 4 host para nasa labas ng datastore ung magiging vcenter mo, para kahit sirain mo ung mga host intact parin si vcenter..
  • i'll skip vsan muna,.. well, wala rin kase akong plan now na pag aralan iyon,. siguro balikan ko iyon pag tinuloy ko for VCAP.

    for now, refresh muna ng knowledge sa vsphere and pagaralan VDI solutions ng VMWare.

    i think kaya highlights ito ni vmware dahil makakatulong talaga ito sa companies na merong malaking internal storage sa kanilang mga esx hosts,.. and aside from that,.. it's a separate license as far as i know, so another pera para sa kanila :D

    uhm,.. okay din sakin ang 4 hosts,.. pero kahit kase 3 hosts, ilalagay ko pa rin si vcenter sa shared storage. para makita ko behavior just incase idisconnect ko intentionally isang host.

    next step ko is paghanap ng supplier and at the same time, pag generate ng pondo para sa planong ito. hahahahaha.

    salamat sa mga input mo boss @desvillar
  • yup medyo magastos na ang vsan, tsaka marami parin nagamit ng SAN kaya kahit tsaka mo na sya aralin..

    good luck!
  • Mas mahal SAN compared sa VSAN, cough cough cough EMC. Kaya patok mga hyper converged system.
  • there's a reason kaya mahal ang SAN. if money is not a problem, i would still go for SAN rather than VSAN. so it really depends on your environment, at goals na kailangan nyo ma achieve.
  • If I'm a architect, I'd rather spend it to NVME/flash (Pure Storage) storage instead of buying SAN. With the current trends moving to cloud storage is another option for DR and archieve. In my company, we have moved to Horizon View for our HPC workstation utilizing VSAN and Nvidia Grid. So far there few hiccups with VSAN but not that critical. We also tell our users to store their simulations to a shared drive hosted on either Netapp or Lustre. Basically, we use VSAN for storing OS image and it simply works if deployed correctly.
  • ours won't be moving to cloud because of the things @desvillar stated on his previous posts. Supportive din naman ang company at willing to spend pagdating sa infra. I agree with you @grexk that if deployed correctly, VSAN works well. I haven't got a chance to go deep into VSAN pero your information is a good stuff i can use maybe pag nalipat ako ng work environment. :)
  • Mga Sir baka may alam kayong SAS/SATA raid controller compatible sa Esxi 6.5 to 6.7.
    Need ko lang mag raid 1 mga sir.

    Thanks

    -- edited by jhellopy on Jul 19 2018, 03:20 PM
  • here is the link for vmware compatibility guide
    https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=io

    ask ko lang @jhellopy if bakit ka pa mag raid 1? why not make a raid 1 inside the vm? that way wala kang magiging performance degradation since magiging 2 hd mo ang naka pool unlike i hardware raid mo na isa nlang ung disk is makikihati pa sa performance ung isang disk mo na naka raid
  • Im using Esxi 6.5 Sir bootable using USB.

    why not make a raid 1 inside the vm? you mean im going to raid 1 inside the OS "windows / linux?
    Currently I have 2 2TB HHSD and 2 4TB.


    My plan setup VM setup

    Raid 1
    2x2TB (VM OS)
    2x4TB (DATA)

    -- edited by jhellopy on Jul 19 2018, 06:11 PM
  • Kamusta mga tropa? May nag aadopt na ba sa inyo ng hyper converged infra (HCI)? i.e. Nutanix and Simplivity. Share din kayo ng experience nyo dito like pros and cons.
  • yung SVT ni Cisco UCS, hindi maganda. We bought 3 nodes, 2 of them nag fail na yung Omnicard in a span of two years. Yung HPE SVT naman so far, so good.
  • Sangfor has it's own HCI but the problem is hindi siya programmable.. hindi ka pwede mag integrate ng ibang virtual network components

    cisco cloud service platform hci
    " well maganda siya kasi open siya sa ibang virtualize software"
    well known like f5, palot alto,checkpoint, etc.

    im not ciscofan as long pwedeng kalikutin "automate"

    -- edited by erwinsky on Sep 03 2018, 06:05 PM
  • Mga Sir ask ko lang baka may nakakaalam ng sagot dito.
    Meron akong Server na Esxi meron akong isang Vm na pang gaming at ito ay naka passthrough gamit ko na video card ay Rx570 4GB para sa output ng Esxi host at isang Rx470 8GB para naman sa gaming. Nagawa ko ng mag passthrough ang Gaming Vm ko sa RX480 GB at nadidisplay ko sa monitor ko pero kapag maglalaro nako nadidisconnect ang Esxi host ko di ko na ma ping pero dun sa kabilang monitor ko tumatakbo ang game at hindi naghang ang VM. Hindi ko alam kung bakit nadidisconnect si Esxi host tuwing maglalaro ako pero hindi naman cya naghang.

    May naka encounter ba sa inyo nito?

    PC Specs
    I7 7700k
    MSI Z170A
    24GB
    SSHD
    Intel Lan Card

    -- edited by jhellopy on Nov 18 2018, 08:27 AM
  • Beginner level: ano po mas maganda VirtualBox or VMware?
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    -- edited by hajji on Jul 18 2020, 12:30 PM