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well makakasama if mawili ang tao na maniwala kaagad (gullible in english) without evidence
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Need advice on alternative cure for Cancer
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well makakasama if mawili ang tao na maniwala kaagad (gullible in english) without evidence
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alternative medicine is basically change of lifestyle. hindi tinetake ito like medicine.
my mom was diagnosed w cancer and was given 3mos to live. and guess what, umabot sya ng 11 yrs. 9 1/2yrs dun quality life. nagka crisis lang kami sa pera nung 10th year nya at di na na maintain yung lifestyle.
basics na naalala ko sa mom ko na till now inaaply ko sa araw araw.
drink 2ltrs of water pagka gising and dont eat anything for the next 30 mins.
i dont drink cold water. sa ref ko walang tubig. kung kaya 2 glasses every 30mins for the whole day. except pag nasa labas ako ng house o babyahe.
Alkali water as much as possible. I dont drink distilled.
i dont eat anything white. like white rice, white bread, white sugar etc... the darker the better. We eat red rice sa house. mascovado sugar lang and white bread ay banned sa house ko.
breakfast, we only eat raw foods. veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds.
Bawas if not eliminate sugar lalo na artificial sugar.
pag bibili ng vegies o prutas, pinipili ko ung may onting bulok or better may uod. next best thing sa organic veggies. mahal kasi organic.
pagnaliligo, una basain ang paa pataas.
yan lang naalala ko now. kung papansinin nyo nothing fancy. hindi na ba ako mag cacancer? well, wala makakapag sabi. kung magkaroon man then il worry about that later. pero atleast "nabawasan" ko yung "Risk" since may cancer kami sa lahi namin.
btw, yan yung pang araw araw namin ginagawa nung buhay pa mom ko. pero since stage 4 na sya nung madiagnose, madami sya therapy o treatment daily na naka tulong talaga. "BUT" hindi uubra yun kung di nya ginawa yung mga nasa taas.
Ilan sa mga therapy nya nagpapa biomed sya 2-3 times a week.
Live cell therapy (Stem cell) w/c is iniimport pa namin dati. i dunno kung meron na to locally. 2.5k per vial. 2 vials per day x 9yrs nya tinake ito.
she sleeps on a heated jade bed.
regular massage/spa treatment.
and gazillions of vitamins and supplements.
at one point nag vegan din kami, zero meat intake, pero di namin kinaya.
Result is extremely good. na feature pa sya sa tv. sa magandang umaga bayan regarding cancer survivor. pumunta sila sa house pinakita yung mga iniinom nya, bed nya etc.
never sya na chemo o kahit anong radiation. pero aminado sya na maganda ang chemo in limited sessions lang. ayaw lang nya talaga kasi papangit daw sya.
I learned a lot from her. nung nawalan kami pera, wala na. tuloy tuloy na. ultimo red rice di na namin mabili. ang bilis nag degrade ng health nya.
so sa nag iisip na mura ang alternative medicine. you are dead wrong. suma total de hamak na mas mahal ang alternative. -
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btw, yan yung pang araw araw namin ginagawa nung buhay pa mom ko. pero since stage 4 na sya nung madiagnose, madami sya therapy o treatment daily na naka tulong talaga. "BUT" hindi uubra yun kung di nya ginawa yung mga nasa taas.
Ilan sa mga therapy nya nagpapa biomed sya 2-3 times a week.
Live cell therapy (Stem cell) w/c is iniimport pa namin dati. i dunno kung meron na to locally. 2.5k per vial. 2 vials per day x 9yrs nya tinake ito.
she sleeps on a heated jade bed.
regular massage/spa treatment.
and gazillions of vitamins and supplements.
at one point nag vegan din kami, zero meat intake, pero di namin kinaya.
sa dami dami ng ginagawa nya pati lifestyle change like special diet and lots of water how are you sure which one was the one what cured her?
or maybe none of the above cured her. What if she is just lucky enough to be one of the rare cases of cancer that gets better by herself? they call that
Spontaneous remission
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Spontaneous remission, also called spontaneous healing or spontaneous regression, is an unexpected improvement or cure from a disease that appears to be progressing in its severity. These terms are commonly used for unexpected transient or final improvements in cancer. Spontaneous remissions concern cancers of the haematopoietic system (blood cancer, e.g. leukemia), while spontaneous regressions concern palpable tumors; however, both notions are often used interchangeably.
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Frequency of spontaneous regression in cancer
It has long been assumed that spontaneous regressions, let alone cures, from cancer are rare phenomena, and that some forms of cancer are more prone to unexpected courses (melanoma, neuroblastoma, lymphoma) than others (carcinoma). Frequency was estimated to be about 1 in 100,000 cancers;[2] however, in reality this ratio might be largely under- or overestimated. For one, not all cases of spontaneous regression can be apprehended, either because the case was not well documented or the physician was not willing or literate enough to publish, or simply because the patient did not show up in a clinic any more. On the other hand, for the past 100 years almost all cancer patients have been treated in one way or the other, such that the influence of treatment cannot always be excluded.
At least for small tumors the frequency of spontaneous regression most likely was drastically underrated. In a carefully designed study on mammography it was found that 22% of all breast cancer cases underwent spontaneous regression.[3]
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its good that your mother got better but was it spontaneous remission or a real cure or even placebo effect because of something she did or take? we'll never know because your sample size is only one. The only way we'll know for sure is to get a few thousand people with the same cancer at the same stage and have them exactly do what your mother did and then crunch the statistics
the placebo effect is a real effect. We can measure it objectively like in the levels of endorphins in the blood
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anecdotal evidence is of very limited value
Indeed. Just because one person did this and did that and had something positive turn out it doesn't mean anything. It's anecdotal evidence, which is the worst form of "evidence." Does anyone even recall noni juice? A few years ago it was a craze and lots of anecdotal evidence came out from various people claiming it cured a lot of things. Fast forward several years and where is noni juice now? Relegated to the trashbin of stuff that never really worked. -
sa dami dami ng ginagawa nya pati lifestyle change like special diet and lots of water how are you sure which one was the one what cured her?
or maybe none of the above cured her. What if she is just lucky enough to be one of the rare cases of cancer that gets better by herself? they call that
FYI. She was never cured. no one said she was cured. Her cancer is there all along.
yung cancer nya NEVER nag regress,. literally andun lang, never lumiit, pero di nag progress.
You see ikaw na mismo nagsabi na knowing is battle half won. That is true.
keyword dyan ay change in lifestyle.
The things she did/took worked in conjunction with each other. HINDI mag wowork yung ng wala ang isa. lahat importante. very concious effort but it paid off.
WALANG ONE MED CURE ALL.
Like Noni juice. Noni is good, but useless kung yun lang.
nung hindi na nya kaya ipag patuloy ang lifestyle na yun, unti unti na hindi nya ginagawa yung tamang diet, wala na. derederecho na, sobrang bilis nag deteriorate ng katawan.
And sa totoo lang hindi rare case ang sa nanay ko. education lang. Kasi naman yung ibang tao, pag sinabing alternative as in hindi na nagpapacheck sa doctor. like may kakilala ako na may dengue anak nya, pinainom ng tawa tawa at di na dinala sa hospital. nag self medicate. That is SOOOOO STUPID!!!
Ang tawa tawa kahit anong tanggi ng DOH, PROVEN effective sa pag papadami ng platelets, BUT, HINDI SYA GAMOT SA DENGUE.
like what my mom did, tulungan lang ang katawan, bigyan ng bala kumbaga to fight the decease, kung mataas ang platelet mas makakalaban ang katawan. pero need pa din pa hospitalize. -
Spontaneous remission
oh btw, may kakilala ako na nakaranas nito.
tita ng kakilala ko lang.
may cancer of the lymph nodes sya, mahirap lang sila so di talaga mapagamot, as in ang bilis ng pag laki ng bukol then pumutok na, mabaho and all.
then one day, paalis sila, sobrang sakit daw, pumasok sya sa cr, then di nya alam ano nangyari pumutok as in parang pigsa na sinuka ng katawan yung bukol. dumogo ng sobrang itim na dugo, then nung tumigil yung pag durugo, nag flat yung bukol nya then after a few days she felt good. kaya lang after ilang months ng tumubo ulet mga bukol wala na tuloy tuloy na din. I guess that is one very good example ng Spontaneous remission. as in nawala yung bukol nya at nag ok sya ng wala naman talaga sya ginagawa. -
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and my mom did last for almost 10yrs. even her doctors. who swears she will die in 3mos kung di maalis tumor nya and di mag undergo ng chemo, admit that what ever she is doing is very effective and ipag patuloy lang. But still they insist na kung maalis yun tumor at ma chemo mas ok at maging cancer free sya. I honestly think tama naman yun.
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FYI. She was never cured. no one said she was cured. Her cancer is there all along.
yung cancer nya NEVER nag regress,. literally andun lang, never lumiit, pero di nag progress.
You see ikaw na mismo nagsabi na knowing is battle half won. That is true.
keyword dyan ay change in lifestyle.
The things she did/took worked in conjunction with each other. HINDI mag wowork yung ng wala ang isa. lahat importante. very concious effort but it paid off.
how do we know that it was all of them cooperating or only one of them or maybe none of them that caused the cancer to become stable? maybe another person with the same disease doing the exact same thing would have a different outcome
there are cases of spontaneous remission where the cancer doesnt get cured, stable lang di lumalaki for years
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how do we know that it was all of them cooperating or only one of them or maybe none of them that caused the cancer to become stable? maybe another person with the same disease doing the exact same thing would have a different outcome
may cancer organization that does the same thing. that is why I can say na "HINDI RARE" case ang nanay ko. Hindi sya ang nauna at hindi din sya ang huli. pero need ng dedication at resources/contacts. marami din na nafifeature sa tv. but may pagka misleading lagi ang mga feature sa tv. may hina highlight lang na ginamit. na pag ung ang ginamit gagaling. NOT TRUE.
again let me reiterate, "WALANG CURE ALL". no such thing.
my mom did "nothing fancy". she just tried to eat as healthy as possible. gave her body all it needs to recuperate.
you dont have to believe if you dont want to. im not trying to convince you. what im trying to say is for those looking for alternative solution, eat right, live right. na sa panahon natin sa ngayon ay napaka hirap gawin. Kahit mag gulay ka ng mag gulay di mo alam kinakargahan mo pala katawan mo ng carcinogens.
also iwasan ang mga marketing ng mga MLM na cure all. kahit anong sakit kaya gamutin. NO SUCH THING. -
kahit alisin ng alisin ang tumor babalik pa rin yang kasi hindi yung cause ang ginagawan ng solution..and chemotherapy itself is a cancer..its like killing cancer with a cancer..pinalitan mo lang din so baliwala...eat the right foods....food matters.. =) hth
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.eat the right foods....food matters.. =) hth
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may cancer organization that does the same thing. that is why I can say na "HINDI RARE" case ang nanay ko. Hindi sya ang nauna at hindi din sya ang huli.
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knowing is battle half won
not true... there are battles you can\'t win...
better is you can choose a more appropriate plan if you know your opponent.
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According to conceited scientists. Herbalist have long cured certain ailments using the same herbs and this is the result of ancient studies/observations or discoveries. Just because their studies was not reviewed in science journals does not mean it\'s ineffective. I had read somewhere before that to fight aids a certain group of scientist were inspecting studying various herbs/plants and animals that may have the potential cure. -
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<click here for link> I managed to come across this page and it seems legit... together with Dr. Hardin B. Jones and it seems their findings are legit too. I hope somebody can point the opposite.
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Fruits and vegetables. Turmeric at iba pang masustansiyang pagkain, pang cancer yan. Maraming halamang gamot para sa cancer at ibang sakit! Magtanim sa bakuran (kahit maliit) para makatipid!
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necro'd haha. Ok yang apple cider. Umiinom kami nyan. Kaso hirap makabili ng Bragg ngayon (wala masyado supply). Hindi ko type yung ibang brand, mahal or hindi puro.
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Tagal na pala ito buhayin natin.
Get rid of all added sugar. If possible limit up to 10grams of sugar per day only. Look at the labels sa delata or sa food packages. 1 teaspoon of sugar is 4.2grams. Limit carbs in your diet. Cancer cells feed on sugar if you starve them its possible to get rid all cancer cells. Live on ketogenic diet until gumaling ka or kung sino man ang may cancer. Ketogenic diet is high fat medium protein and very low in carbs usually 20 to 35 grams of carbs per day only.
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