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Bakit TRAFFIC lagi? Ano ang problema? Ano ang pwedeng solusyon?

  • for me dalawa lang ang solusyon ng traffic sa maynila...

    una ay to decongest... meaning to develop other big cities outside metro manila para hindi na magpuntahan ang mga tao sa ncr... and make the salaries comparable... tanggalin ang provincial rate.. kaya nga ung officemate ko, pinilit nya uwian to lipa kasi hindi comparable ang sweldo, to think the expenses are almost the same din sa province... kaya madaming tao sa maynila because andun ang trabaho.. dun malaki ang sweldo... meron bang ibang option? wala.. sa maynila lang.. other cities like cebu, davao, subic, etc should be developed to compete with manila... once that happens, baka pati mga taga maynila lumipat na din.

    pangalawa is world class public transpo... ang sabi nga, makikita mo na maunlad ang siudad hindi dahil sa lahat nakakotse, kundi yung mga nakakotse, mas gustong magbus, magmrt, magtrain... nung nasa pinas ako, kahit matrapik mas gusto kong magdrive.. kasi mas mahirap pa magbus or mrt.. delikado pa... ngayong andito na ako sa montreal, public transpo lang ako to commute sa work.. ang kotse is for weekends lang kasi mas relax pa na mag bus at mrt... hindi ka makikipagsiksikan, hindi ka pipila ng pagkahabahaba at higit sa lahat safe..

    so basically, dapat ang pagtuunan is yung long term solution.. gusto ng tao is comfort, kung mas madali kumuha ng trabaho sa provinsya/city nya, bat sya aalis? kung mas madali magmrt at bus, bat sya magdadrive? yung mga suggestion na pataasin ang downpayment ng bagong kotse, i-ban ang old cars, isang sasakyan kada pamilya, number coding, etc.. -- lahat yan puro band aid solutions.. ang tao, gagawa ng work around sa mga solutions na yan... then pag alam na ng lahat yung work around, balik sa original problem..


    Like with the other TPC members, I also agree with akosiempoy

    Let us hope that the new President and his appointees will be able to deliver on all of their promises. Of course, we also need to participate by following the law

    I used to ride the MRT3 line everyday but I gave up on it. Wala pa ako sa trabaho, pawis na pawis na ako at stressed na. Masakit sa bulsa ang taxi ride sa C5 pero at least ay comfy ang byahe ko

    -- edited by bintsmok on Aug 14 2016, 04:48 PM
  • Ang solusyun sa traffic ay, HONEST, STRONG POLITICAL WILL, CORRUPTION FREE, Let JICA handle all transactions for INFRA Projects
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  • Grabe traffic pag umuulan.. sayang krudo :(
  • 1. Buses should be government owned and operated para di nagaagawan ng pasahero. Kung kaya pati jeep or better yet e-jeep, all the more ok. Patraffic lang kasi yung mga bus at jeep na naguunahan makapasada. Tumitigil pa sila pa-diagonal while blocking 2 LANES para di makadaan ibang bus o jeep.

    2. Urban planning - WALKABLE CITIES. Sino ba naman gugusto mag commute kung pagdating mo sa trabaho amoy usok ka na and pawis. Wala man lang tayong sidewalk na matino sa ibang lugar; 1 foot lang width ng sidewalk while natutuluan ka pa ng maduming tubig from the overpass.

    3. Congestion problem as pointed out. ^

    -- edited by bluedude44 on Aug 15 2016, 01:26 PM
  • Emergency powers na. Yung mga maliliit na businesses/property owners na malapit sa kalsada/choke points/maraming foot traffic ay madaling ipacomply na sumunod basta government project. Yung mga tulad ng SM/Ayala, lalaban yan ng bribes at influence makuha lang ang gusto kahit magkandabuhol-buhol ang trapiko. Dagdag na private vehicles, shopping malls along EDSA, vendors sa sidewalk at mismong kalsada: hindi yan masosolusyonan ng dagdag na vehicle restrictions, elevated expressways.
  • 1. Buses should be government owned and operated para di nagaagawan ng pasahero. Kung kaya pati jeep or better yet e-jeep, all the more ok. Patraffic lang kasi yung mga bus at jeep na naguunahan makapasada. Tumitigil pa sila pa-diagonal while blocking 2 LANES para di makadaan ibang bus o jeep.

    2. Urban planning - WALKABLE CITIES. Sino ba naman gugusto mag commute kung pagdating mo sa trabaho amoy usok ka na and pawis. Wala man lang tayong sidewalk na matino sa ibang lugar; 1 foot lang width ng sidewalk while natutuluan ka pa ng maduming tubig from the overpass.



    3. Congestion problem as pointed out. ^


    1. - Not feasible except in a communist country
    2. Hoverboards, bikes, segways or other personal electronic transports should be the only allowed machines in certain areas like offices... we have to minimize the parking areas...



  • sana ganito din sa atin. hays.

    -- edited by jeer1210 on Aug 25 2016, 08:55 AM
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    the video makes sense.
  • Yet another SIMPLE solution.




    -- edited by fordman on Sep 04 2016, 02:27 PM
  • 1) higpitan pag bigay ng driver license kasi kung hindi nababayran yung driver license ay 98% na applicant/renewal ng driver license ay fail bawas traffic agad.

    2) icheck nila populasyon sa isang area sa munisipyo pag umabot na sa 600k lagyan na ng MRT kasi kung 600k
    bus capacity : 60 person
    jeep capacity : 20 person
    ilang car , jeep para maisakay pasahero na 600k
    600k / 60 = 10k bus and need to accommodate passenger at saan natin padadaanin 10k bus?

    pag 600k na lagyan na ng mrt kahit wala subsidy ng goverment pamasahe basta confortable naman sa tingin di na magdadala car iba.

    3) kung 6 lanes and edsa north/south siguro kahit 2 or 3 lanes mrt lang muna ilagay dyan sigurado wala na traffic.
    kahit wala na subsidy ng goverment mrt ay ok na rin siguro kasi kahit sino siguro pag confortable at safe sa biyahe di na magdadala car yung iba.

    -- edited by ke on Sep 04 2016, 04:24 PM
  • I just had an interesting conversation with a pissed-off Grab car driver (andaming nalugi nung nag P200 discount promo last week).

    He's claiming that the sudden surge of traffic problems was triggered by the breakdown problems of MRT-3, thus passengers wanted an alternate way to get to work (na naka aircon).

    Thus, biglang nag boom ang colorum UVs, Uber at Grab, andaming nag invest in a new car/AUV/van to earn 2K-4K a day.

    I think it makes sense, in a supply and demand situation, we ourselves triggered the traffic nightmare.

    Solution? Buy motorbikes for you, your spouse, and Sr.HS kids.
  • bihira ang nag admit na we (all of us) are part of the problem.
    Good posting.

    in one word. Greed cause uber to fall. ngayon hatakan na ng units.

    on mrt. hangang mura ang singil ng mrt. mag fail at fail yan dahil sa maintenance problem.

    gaya ng post sa taas na gusto dapat mala japan ang service.
    dapat mala japan din cost ng ticket.

    -- edited by rodriv on Sep 05 2016, 05:47 PM
  • Solution:

    1. I-develop ang rural areas
    Nagsisiksikan sa MM kasi andun ang trabaho.
    2. Fvck provincial rate.
    same reason above
    3. Abolish stupid coding system
    Ang gagawin ng mga may pambili ng kotse eh bibili pa ng 1 kotse para sa coding day. Ang mangyayari pwede na siyang magdrive 7 days a week, at may 2 sasakyan sa daan na pwedeng bumiyahe 6 days a week. Dumoble lang ang populasyon ng sasakyan.

    -- edited by mokomoko31 on Sep 05 2016, 06:01 PM
  • Hindi na masosolve yan. Kung massolve man, 10 years pa or more ang aabutin na panahon.
  • dapat mala japan din cost ng ticket.


    in my opinion, ok lang magtaas sila ng singil basta may mapupuntahan yung pagtataas nila at magpo-progress talaga ang system nila.
  • Ok ang proposal na ito. Pero mas ok kung free...
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    We are advancing another proposal: the building of a “parking city” at each road entrance to the Metro. We envision these parking building complexes on two or more hectares of land, three floors down and three floors (or more) up, with sprawling exterior parking lots and other features to accommodate hundreds, nay, thousands of private vehicles for a moderate fee.

    Car owners and their passengers will be ferried by shuttle buses to their destinations in Pasay, Manila, Makati, Mandaluyong, Pasig, Quezon City and other Metro cities. Hours will be assigned for transport back to the different parking cities where their cars have been parked for the day.

    These parking cities will host stores, restaurants and other business establishments that will employ hundreds of jobless Filipinos who will contribute to the economic welfare of the country. If 5,000 to 10,000 cars are kept from busy routes like Edsa every day, traffic in the Metro will ease up and travel will be more bearable.
  • Balik na daw ang UV express sa EDSA. Ano reason? Medyo napaisip ako bakit parang bawal tapos pwede ulit parang katulad lang ng dati ang mga nangyayari?
  • Nakita ko lang sa imgur about one factor that causes the traffic jam.

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    now from this the reason "mabagal kasi yung nasa harap na sasakyan eh" arises.
    kaya may maintenance ang mga sasakyan para hindi bumagal ng sobra ang sasakyan mo.
    regarding sa mababagal na trucks, dahil it's either overloaded sila or sobrang luma na at walang proper maintenance.

    Please note, I am not a professional regarding this matter. Please, no bashing.
  • kaya may maintenance ang mga sasakyan para hindi bumagal ng sobra ang sasakyan mo.
    regarding sa mababagal na trucks, dahil it's either overloaded sila or sobrang luma na at walang proper maintenance.


    Tama ka dyan paps. Kahit sobrang galing mo magdrive kung walang proper maintenance pwede madisgrasya or makadisgrasya. Dapat may mahigpit na pagmonitor sa maintenance ng mga heavy vehicles at mga PUVs.
  • Wala na talaga pag asa Pinas sa pagdating sa problema sa traffic. That's the reality.
  • regarding sa mababagal na trucks, dahil it's either overloaded sila or sobrang luma na at walang proper maintenance.


    not to bash bro, but big trucks simply move slower in traffic not because of poor maintenance but for safety. they need to allocate a safe distance in front of them because big vehicles like those are not as easy to stop when it gets moving - that's for new and old 10+ wheel trucks. with regards to heavy traffic, yes they contribute a lot... but they need to ply our major roads(c5,edsa,c3,etc..) so that goods can be delivered from north to south and vice versa.. this is vital to the economy and just outright banning them will be a disaster.. for me the best solution for this is the development of the railway system.. not just for public transport but for delivery of goods from north <> south. with this, not only it will help ease the traffic but it will be greener and faster. and with that, only local delivery trucks should the only one allowed in the metro.
  • poor infrastructure planning. Each department/agency and LGU makes their own plans without coordinating with each other. Basta lang may magawa without thinking long term.
  • not to bash bro, but big trucks simply move slower in traffic not because of poor maintenance but for safety. they need to allocate a safe distance in front of them because big vehicles like those are not as easy to stop when it gets moving - that's for new and old 10+ wheel trucks. with regards to heavy traffic, yes they contribute a lot... but they need to ply our major roads(c5,edsa,c3,etc..) so that goods can be delivered from north to south and vice versa.. this is vital to the economy and just outright banning them will be a disaster.. for me the best solution for this is the development of the railway system.. not just for public transport but for delivery of goods from north <> south. with this, not only it will help ease the traffic but it will be greener and faster. and with that, only local delivery trucks should the only one allowed in the metro.


    yep. I understand that. ang tinutukoy ko lang po ay yung mga overloaded and poorly maintained trucks. sorry hindi malinaw ang pagkakasabi.
  • To add regarding poor urban planning. Pansin nyo ba ang kaliwa't kanan na pagtatayo ng mga condo at subdivisions ngayon? Sa ibang countries, maraming requirement bago magkaroon ng subdivision. Dito sa Pinas, parang puro subdivision kalat kalat at hindi rin maayos in the long run.
  • ^ onga, puro condo ang tinatayo ngayon, mga mayayaman lang naman nakakabili dun. sana talaga matanggal yung provincial rate tapos add/extend railways para mas madaling bumyahe ng province to province via train. kelangan iscatter ang mga tao para hindi siksikan sa metro. grabe na kasi, di na makomportable sa pagcommute. sa p2p ka lang magiging komportable kasi konti ang sumasakay. hays.
  • 3. word on the street is that malls can "lobby" daw where the train station should terminate (the closer to them, the better?) anong kagagauhan to?
    Hindi kagaguhan yan at totoo nakakapag lobby nga sila for the simple reason na malakas mag tax at maglagay ang mga yan. Pero on the logical side mas madali para sa mga tao pag me walkway na diretso sa malls. Bawas traffic to. example sa dami ng naglalakad sa baba ng mega mall minsan nahaharangan na ang mga kotse (Not saying pabor ako sa kotse).

    Pabor ako about sa park cities pero dapat i close loop muna ang MRT at LRT (May patlang dyan sa SM north EDSA) since mas mura to at mas malaki ang impact. Mas gusto ko pa rin magkaroon ng sky highway above MRT and LRT na ang pwedeng dumaan eh mga hoverboards o kaya bikes. Pero kung gusto immediate eh implement na yung forced scheduling at work at home. Maybe gawa sila ng Traffic reduction Act or law...

    Objectives

    1. Encourage use of small personal transports by subsidies
    2. Create Infra for personal transports (hoverboards, bikes, mopeds, ebikes, segways, velocipedes, velomobiles, etc.) speed limit at 40 KPH, Create park cities
    3. Implement block scheduling for companies (ex... isang building sa Otigas o Makati eh ang pasok 6:00 AM ang Katabi eh 7:00AM)
    4. Forced work at home via Good IT infra
    5. Force Telco's to improve it services and INFRA (good that PRRD is threatening these bastards)
    6. Relocate non I-T companies to the provinces.
    7. Subsidize Carbon Fiber materials and polymers and let TESDA teach carbon fiber moulding techniques - Para maencourage ang paggawa ng CF transports na magaan dalhin para kaya bibitin kahit bata ang bubuhat.. say... folding bike.
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    Madaming pwedeng gawin ngayon lalo nat may political will ang presidente.

    -- edited by emcel on Oct 09 2016, 03:16 PM
  • Excited na ko sa mga upcoming developments. Unti unti na nagkakaroon ng improvement, pero maraming taon pa ang kailangan para makita yung big improvements. Kailangan talaga disiplina at pati implementation ng mga tama at magandang solution. Although hindi ako apektado sa trapik kasi online ang trabaho ko, excited pa rin ako.
  • Kwento ko.

    dahil nag deklara ng walang pasok ang buong metro manila dahil sa bagyo...

    Ngayon umaga, kani kanina.... 645AM nakarating na ako ng office!

    645 am nasa office na ako! Can you believe it????

    645 FREAKING AM!!!!!

    Alam nyo ba ano ibig sabihin nito????


    Itapon mga estudyante sa isang isla at dun na lang sila mag aral!
  • iwas traffic question....

    Regarding C5 Extension (Moonwalk-Merville). Ang pagkakaalam ko is may subdivision itong way na to? Need pa ba ng sticker dito para makadaan dito?

    Thanks!