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**AMD Enthusiast (Anything and Everything about AMD CPU/APU and AMD GPU)

  • Hindi ako sure kung sinasadya ng AMD assembly plant sa Malaysia, or nagkaroon talaga ng problema sa testing and Q&A at may batches na nakalusot na working ang 8-cores. Hindi ito the same as mga Phenom CPU's before na kailangan mo i-unlock yung extra cores sa BIOS. This time mukhang detected na sila as an 8-core CPU out of the box.

    Pero let's hope na sinadya talaga ni AMD ito as a tactic to sway buyers to go for Ryzen instead of Coffee Lake. Otherwise it could be na yung batch of CPU's na yun may potential defect na nakalusot sa testing. Although may way naman ata sa BIOS to disable cores ng CPU. Pero hindi ko lang sure kung mapipili mo which cores to disable.
  • tututs ba ito?! kung totoo ito sa lahat ng R5 1600 magiging magulo ang choices ko sa mobo next year.... set na saka ako sa taichi tapos biglang lumabas naman ito...

    sabagay, mas mura ito kesa taichi.

    edit: wala ata sa mobo ang detection..... yung processor mismo daw ay 8 core pero R5 to fill in demand for R5..... pede.... hmm..... antay ako next year pa rin at wala ako pero ngayon....


    Meron din Ryzen 3 1200 na 8 cores



    swerte naman makakuha nyan dito din sa pilipinas. let the hunt begin.

    -- edited by ActualCannibal on Nov 16 2017, 01:07 AM
  • @vincentshinjiru

    I'll be going back to AMD in a few days, since ATX build ka, probably the best "budget" B350 ATX board is:

    Asus Prime B350 Plus - 5700php

    Kung aabot ka din naman ng 7K and above, nasa range ka na ng Asrock X370 Gaming X Fatal1ty
  • tapos hanap ka ng UA 17xx PGT na batch code ng R3 1200 or R5 1600 baka maka swerte ka na 8 core ang makukuha mo.....

    xx can be any of the following: 07, 28, 33, 36.... so far ito nakikita kong mga naka lottery....
  • Wala na yata nagbebenta ng threadripper 1900x ?
  • guys yung mga naka ryzen dito may crash daw pag gumagamit ng hwinfo sa background meaning nasa taskbar? kasi nagtataka ako dito sa threadripper stable sa lahat pero sa ilang games nag hang pero minsan lang bigla ko lang nabasa sa iba ganun din, stable stress test tapos bigla nag hahang yung laro.

    Nag live stream pa ako ng ilang araw ng ibang game na tig 3 hours walang crash pero nung nag record ako at nag eedit (ibang game) bigla naghahang yung laro na nirerecord ko which is weird. Ngayon tinanggal ko yung hwinfo muna at core temp/msi after burner pang monitor ko sa CPU at GPU temp. Will feedback kung may crashes na mangyayari.

    link
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6w7pjf/ryzen_1600_38ghz_does_this_voltage_look_right_hw/

    Quit hwinfo when stress testing. It causes crashes on am4 boards. Had the same problem before, took me a while before someone pointed this out to me as well.
    Edit: In fact, don't keep hwinfo on, EVER, it'll cause you a crash sooner or later, though happens more often when stress testing. If needed, use it for short bursts of time.


    Dude I've never heard of this until now but THANK YOU SO MUCH. Dont wanna jinx it 1.5 hours into occt (shooting for 2 full hours for now) but I've never been stable at this freq for this long and I always used to have hwinfo open the whole time.
    I'll try to remember to edit in if I pass or not incase you're curious. Maybe ill even go even more aggressive with my oc since I already feed my chip 1.425v.
  • I've been running HWInfo since day 1. Naka auto start siya in fact. There are crashes back when hinahanap ko pa saktong OC ng 1700 ko. And I'm pretty sure it's not hwinfo related instead unstable oc lang. I've only used the first version of hwinfo during ryzen launch and only updated recently to the latest version (non-beta). Still having issues at this point? I thought fixed na at ram lang problema?

    -- edited by sempron_guy on Nov 17 2017, 08:59 PM
  • based sa nabasa ko yung mismong gigabyte motherboard ata eh may problem ata sa hwinfo

    link:
    https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-BF1-crash-when-HWInfo-is-running-Ryzen-1600X-Gigabyte-AB350-Gaming-3

    Thanks for the feedback. This means there's probably one more problem with this SIO/LPC (besides the one that I already resolved).
    This is most probably some instability of the chip when being periodically polled, but I'm not sure how to workaround this yet.
    Problem is also that this chip is a special ITE design for GIGABYTE and neither of them is willing to disclose more information about it


    EDIT:

    tignan ko nalang ulit sa normal use, sa normal usage talaga nagkakaproblem, tnry ko din realbench ng 2 oras dati ni isa walang crash so may something talaga xD

    -- edited by sausuke11 on Nov 17 2017, 09:51 PM
  • Thinking of upgrading my current rig. Initially set na ako sa i5 8400 pagnagsilabasan na mga budget boards ng coffeelake. Pero naisip ko rin baka in terms of "bang for the buck" in the long run mas sulit ang ryzen. Unlike intel yung AMD matagal isupport yung mga chipset nila. So if there are significant improvements in their cpus down the line, masmadali magupgrade dahil di kelangan ng bagong mobo. Any opinions? Balak ko magupgrade once na magnormalize yung presyo ng mga ram. Not in a rush naman. Kaya ko rin hintayin ang mga budget coffeelake boards. Strictly for gaming purposes lang yung pc. It will be paired with a 1070 or whatever will take its tier in future nvidia gpus
  • @sausuke11
    guys yung mga naka ryzen dito may crash daw pag gumagamit ng hwinfo sa background meaning nasa taskbar?

    Hi sir, in my case palagi nasa background task yung HWiNFO64 and so far never pa ako naka experience ng crash dahil sa kaniya. Yung PC iniiwan ko running 24/7 since May and chine-check ko kasi kung may WHEA errors kasi baka unstable yung memory overclock.

    Try mo sir to download the latest version (not Beta) and set polling rate to greater than 2000 milliseconds. Also kung madami kang monitoring tools running in the background tulad ng MSI Afterburner, Ryzen Master, Real Temp, etc. Possible na nag conflict sila dahil sabay sabay sila nag po-poll ng system mo. Ideally just use 1 monitoring tool if possible.
  • Sa ryzen setup ko nag ca crash ang hwinfo although naka MSI mobo ako. Di ko na nasubaybayan kung na fix ba yun since nabenta ko na din sya kaya during that time di ko na ginagamit yung hwinfo
  • based sa nabasa ko yung mismong gigabyte motherboard ata eh may problem ata sa hwinfo

    link:
    https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-BF1-crash-when-HWInfo-is-running-Ryzen-1600X-Gigabyte-AB350-Gaming-3


    Awts, mukhang ito nga ang reason for intermittent crashes ng games ko, although bihira lang naman. Naka- AX-370 Gaming K7 F2a ako.
  • @mike_espia
    Thinking of upgrading my current rig. Initially set na ako sa i5 8400 pagnagsilabasan na mga budget boards ng coffeelake. Pero naisip ko rin baka in terms of "bang for the buck" in the long run mas sulit ang ryzen. Unlike intel yung AMD matagal isupport yung mga chipset nila. So if there are significant improvements in their cpus down the line, masmadali magupgrade dahil di kelangan ng bagong mobo. Any opinions? Balak ko magupgrade once na magnormalize yung presyo ng mga ram. Not in a rush naman. Kaya ko rin hintayin ang mga budget coffeelake boards. Strictly for gaming purposes lang yung pc. It will be paired with a 1070 or whatever will take its tier in future nvidia gpus

    Kung strictly for gaming ang PC, I would recommend you go with Coffee Lake. Assuming hindi masyado mahal mga entry-level motherboards tulad ng H310 and B360, you will get better bang for your buck with a Core i5-8400 setup. Also since you are starting out with a GTX 1070 (or ka level niya), mas mataas ang headroom ng Core i5-8400 if you plan to upgrade to a faster videocard in the next 2-3 years.

    Ok naman mag Ryzen and supposedly mas matagal ang upgrade lifespan ng AM4 motherboards, pero may clock speed and IPC advantage ang Core i5-8400 ngayon which makes it very good for games. Kung next year mo pa plano mag upgrade, pwede mo din hintayin ang Ryzen refresh. Check reviews, compare between the two, then decide whether to go with Coffee Lake or Ryzen refresh :-)
  • mga sir ok lang pa i-pair ang rx vega56 sa 75hz 1080p freesync monitor? Purely AAA gaming lang po ang lalaruin. Marami pong salamat.
  • Thanks sir sleepygeepy. Set na ulit ako sa i5 8400. Yung ryzen kasi available na ngayon kaya natetempt ako. Buti nalang mahal ram ngayon kaya ayoko rin magrush.
  • If you wanna waste money, yeah, Vega is fine.

    -- edited by AkoSiMus on Nov 18 2017, 01:26 AM
  • @sleepygeepy

    ay oo magkasama yung msi afterburner at yung hwinfo sa akin, natuwa kasi ako sa hwinfo, nung intel gamit ko pang monitor ay yung temp ay yung speedfan eh di na gumagana dito sa ryzen threadripper kaya naghanap ako, gusto ko kasi nakikita palagi temps nung dalawa. Hintayin ko nalang ulit siguro 6 months para sa hwinfo.

    @WHEA errors

    nahagip ko din yan dun sa nabasa ko which di ko alam kung san titignan, may ganyan pala sa hwinfo para malaman kung stable ram OC

    sa gaming lang talaga sya naghang which is sa isang particular game lang naman

    nagtry din kasi ako tumapos ng game like bayonetta lahat yun laro ko walang crash ni isa pero may isang game tumitigil sya which is yun nga sa pag record ko (random hangs).

    nakamine din ako 24/7 di naman naghahang kaya parang yung game na yun naging benchmark ko kung may problem.

    EDIT:

    ah eto pala yung ITE Super IO na present din dito sa x399, napatingin lang ako kanina sa manual kasi may hinahanap ako




    In a thread dedicated to the AB350 Gaming 3 someone has mentioned "faulty implementation of the second ITE SuperIO chip which will cause a crash when certain utilities try to access it's telemetry data". Also, in the Gigabyte thread it was told that there's a .INI setting that would ignore the second ITE and fix the problem.


    -- edited by sausuke11 on Nov 18 2017, 10:51 AM