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  • Hello - not sure if this is the right thread but im planning to upgrade my build from 2019 - mobo and CPU sana: R5 3600/MSI B450 Pro Carbon Wifi.

    Sumasakit na kasi ulo ko sa rig ko. Minsan mag on lang pero di nagbboot/black screen lang. Minsan bigla magcrash pero naka on pa rin RGB/fans etc (idle/gaming/working). Ngayon napapadalas na.

    Triny ko monitor temps pero normal naman - triny ko na rin tanggal kabit lahat even reseated the CPU and re-apply thermal paste pero ganun pa din.

    Balak ko sana palitan yung main suspects ko which is the CPU/mobo. Sa page 2 ng UHMBMR puro intel na pala recommended ngayon. Kaso nanghihinayang ako mag intel kasi di ko magagamit yung AIO ko na NZXT X62 dahil walang bracket if im not mistaken.

    Worth it pa ba mag R5 5600x/5700x ako + MSI B550 Tomahawk Wifi? Para AM4 pa rin. Yung RAM ko kasi Neo variant din ng Gskill Trident Z na from what I recall if works better sa Ryzen.

    Yung PSU actually suspect ko din pero di ako sure. Okay pa kaya itong 750w ko from Seasonic? Focus+ Gold ito na full modular. Or palitan ko narin ng 850w?

    3 months ko na itong sakit sa ulo eh. Lmk your thoughts sana. Salamat mga boss!
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    Ano ba GPU mo?

    Your problem has to be either the RAM or the GPU.

    Update mo firmware ng GPU, update drivers and try a different cable.
    Kung naka DisplayPort ka...Try mo muna HDMI.
    Hindi naman usually nag rereseat ng CPU. Reseat your RAM instead. Try mo muna isang RAM kung mag boot.
  • ^
    MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming Z Trio.

    Na update ko na GPU driver - yung cable yung di ko pa natry palitan. Although I have 2 monitors - yung main ko naka displayport yung 2nd is naka HDMI. Natry ko na rin na yung 2nd monitor lang nakakabit pero nangyayari pa din.

    Yung RAM na try ko na rin mag reseat, pagpalitin ng slot, 1 RAM stick lang. It happens pa din.
  • ^Natry mo na tingnan yung event logs ng Windows & clear CMOS?

    Mas okay kung maiisolate mo talaga kung ano yung faulty hardware. Mahirap kasi magpalit blindly ng parts na umaasa yun ang fix, bandang huli baka full rig na magawa mo lol.

    Try mo mag memtest86+ para maeliminate yung RAM. The rest of the parts either kailangan may spare ka na PC for testing or sa shop mo ipatroubleshoot.
  • @sydmon:

    maybe you can try to consult professionals?... saan mo ba nabili rig mo?... if build 'yan sa isang kilalang shop eh baka pwede mo sa kanilang ipa troubleshoot kung ano ba talaga fault?... or pwede mo rin ipa test sa shops (usually may fee)... provided na mapagkakatiwalaan yung shop and medyo kilala na (pero ingat pa rin kasi mahirap na ma mishandle ang pc parts)...

    what you can do... if can... eh to test all your parts in another working rig... swapping parts hanggang ma isolate mo kung ano ba talaga yung culprit/s...

    check mo na rin components mo for burn marks or moisture/water stains?... esp. yung mga may pcb's like mobo, gpu and the like?...
  • 7950x @ECO 105, 65. Mas mataas parin ng konti sa 12900k yung CB R23 nT ng 65W 7950x lol. Siguro later on magrerelease din ang AMD ng 7600 & 7700 non-x with similar PPT sa Zen 3, mukhang maganda naman performance kahit hindi piniga yung thermal headroom based sa 7950x ECO mode.



    -- edited by Ignus on Sep 27 2022, 04:18 AM
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    Very efficient.

    Kaso sa stock talagang mas hinabol nila performance kesa efficiency.
  • ^Yep, mukhang sinakto lang ng AMD para mabeat yung 12900k sa gaming graphs. Malaki naman lamang nila sa multi-threaded tasks kahit sa mas mababang TDP.

    Pati yung included na AMD EXPO 6000 C30 na memory na prinovide nila sa reviewers wala pa sa market. Baka maging issue yung availability & pricing + anong performance loss with slower DDR5 ram?


    Intentionally na may patong na 20% sa price yung first motherboard shipment & expected na magkakaprice drops lang after Raptor Lake launch or until Q1 next year. Interesting kung magiging aggressive ulit pricing ng Intel like Alder Lake vs Zen 3.

    -- edited by Ignus on Sep 27 2022, 05:10 AM
  • Natry mo na tingnan yung event logs ng Windows & clear CMOS?

    Mas okay kung maiisolate mo talaga kung ano yung faulty hardware. Mahirap kasi magpalit blindly ng parts na umaasa yun ang fix, bandang huli baka full rig na magawa mo lol.

    Try mo mag memtest86+ para maeliminate yung RAM. The rest of the parts either kailangan may spare ka na PC for testing or sa shop mo ipatroubleshoot.


    Yes nagclear na rin ako ng CMOS even left BIOS settings to default. Yung sa Windows Logs naman na nakikita ko pag nakalusot magboot after a crash is the ff and various unexpected shutdown warnings/errors:

    Level: Critical
    Source: Kernel-Power
    Event ID: 41
    The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

    Di pa ako nakapagmemtest - Windows Memory Diagnostic tool lang and pasado naman. Parang gusto ko na nga lang dalhin din sa shop para mapatignan.

    maybe you can try to consult professionals?... saan mo ba nabili rig mo?... if build 'yan sa isang kilalang shop eh baka pwede mo sa kanilang ipa troubleshoot kung ano ba talaga fault?... or pwede mo rin ipa test sa shops (usually may fee)... provided na mapagkakatiwalaan yung shop and medyo kilala na (pero ingat pa rin kasi mahirap na ma mishandle ang pc parts)...

    what you can do... if can... eh to test all your parts in another working rig... swapping parts hanggang ma isolate mo kung ano ba talaga yung culprit/s...

    check mo na rin components mo for burn marks or moisture/water stains?... esp. yung mga may pcb's like mobo, gpu and the like?...


    Ako nagbuo nito last 2019. Gusto ko na nga rin ipatest na sa shops kaso wala ako alam na trusted or kilala din.
  • Nag launch pala locally earlier today si Ryzen 7000 satin.

    Taken from Gadget Pilipinas FB page:

    Original post link: <click here for link>


    The Ryzen 7000 series will be available locally starting September 28, 2022
    Here are the official PH SRP
    AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Php 46,000
    AMD Ryzen 9 7900X - Php 36,000
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700X - Php 26,000
    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X - Php 19,500
    Read our review of the Ryzen 9 7950X - <click here for link>



    -- edited by lordseph on Sep 27 2022, 07:44 AM
  • 5800X3D or 5950X?

    Not too comfortable constantly running at 95C, we don't live in a colder Western country lol.

    edit: Forgot to mention that I own a 2700X and a X470 board.

    -- edited by Pendragon on Sep 27 2022, 09:18 AM
  • 5800X3D or 5950X?


    Unless you're a content creator I would go for 5800X3D since very few games and basic apps will utilize 16-cores and 32-threads.
  • planning to upgrade my current desktop from 1080p to 1440p gaming. anong masasuggest nyong GPU? I have the LG 27GP850.
  • Undervolted 7950x = 35.7k CB R23 nT score @ 55 °C. Sobrang layo na sa 95°C for 5% performance.


    -- edited by Ignus on Sep 27 2022, 06:20 PM
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    That would easily halved his cpu power draw.

    -- edited by core2pentium4 on Sep 27 2022, 07:04 PM
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  • Sobrang katiting lang performance gains sa gaming thus far from AM4 to AM5 even at 4K reso. Not worth it pa talaga to jump into the new platform mukhang 2nd Gen 7000 series nga ang logical upgrade path.

    <click here for link>

    -- edited by ccl2003 on Sep 27 2022, 08:25 PM
  • ang mahal na ng mga board.... i remembered, high end na dati mga board na mga $200- $270...... ngayon pinaka basic lang
  • @ccl2003
    in a way, parang nakasama pa sa sales ni AMD yung release nila nung X3D iteration nung 5000 series kasi ganyan nga, may parang refresh midway yung chips.

    ganyan yung take away ni Linus eh, tingin ko rin nakasama yung claim ni Lisa na yung 7600x can beat the 12900K, naset na mataas expectations nung reviewers. Come test day, biglang, "uhh.. okay" lang nasabi nila.
  • I'm happy with my R7 5700x.
  • Mahal na talaga mga new hardware ngayun.

    I remember nun unang labas ng HD 5870 which was the fastest single gpu ni AMD dati nabili ko nasa P19k-20k limot ko na yun exact amount kamot ulo na ako sa price nun pero ngayun ehehehehe alam na.
  • ^Siguro yung pinakahuling sulit na CPU & GPU na nabili ko 2500k & Radeon 280x. Konti lang yung difference sa top tier pero ang laki ng difference sa price. Before that sulit din yung Powercolor Radeon HD 6950 PCS++ na dual BIOS na may switch to 6970 lol.

    @ccl2003
    Ang speculation ng ibang reviewers is yung 3090 Ti pa ang bottleneck para makita yung tunay na CPU scaling ng Zen 4. At that point parang hindi na practical magupgrade, unahin mo nalang yung GPU or just keep using your system kung satisfied ka pa naman sa games na nilalaro mo. Kahit yung local RDNA2 pricing natin sobrang mahal kung icompare mo before recent price cuts.
  • I remember nun unang labas ng HD 5870 which was the fastest single gpu ni AMD dati nabili ko nasa P19k-20k limot ko na yun exact amount kamot ulo na ako sa price nun pero ngayun ehehehehe alam na.
    uptrend nga talaga presyuhan ng mga GPU talaga. Kakagulat. Started buying din ganyang generation.

    Nag-"serious" GPU acquisition ako nung GTX 970. Back then 17k na yung card na yun, 2014. Tapos ngayun, ang 70 series, 40k na haha.

    On AMD topic, may unveiling date na ba yung RX 7000?

    -- edited by blue_apple_pencil on Sep 28 2022, 06:11 AM
  • Curve optimizer strikes again, and it's even more potent on 7000 series
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    Performace gains are exploited by reduction in temperature. Allowing it to maintain boost until it reaches a certain temperature.

    Performance targets for the new cpus are high even small offset drop in voltage is highly effective.

    -- edited by core2pentium4 on Sep 28 2022, 07:26 AM
  • @blue_apple_pencil
    November 3
  • For share mga nahalungkat ko na pix.

    Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5.



    Then binenta ko ito at bumili ng 2x na HD 5770 to try crossfire and I regret it.