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djdiaz
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17 May 17 @ 12:55 PM #
May nakapag try na mag OC ng RX580?
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bdic_12
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17 May 17 @ 01:28 PM #
anong magandang pang clean uninstall ng AMD drivers? MSi rx580 8gb po gamit ko. nakaka experience kasi ako ng GPU throttling sa ibang games usage is from 100% biglang mag 0% tapos balik ng 100%.. temps are below 70c.
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mvnjettyrun
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17 May 17 @ 01:37 PM #
^
DDU -
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
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bdic_12
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17 May 17 @ 02:03 PM #
salamat sir
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idemonverin
on
17 May 17 @ 04:27 PM #
Question lang mga sirs. Bottleneck ba tong Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB RX580 sa i5-4460?
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jZeNtRiCkS
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19 May 17 @ 12:50 PM #
Question lang mga sirs. Bottleneck ba tong Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB RX580 sa i5-4460?
Hndi po, same tyo procie :)
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jZeNtRiCkS
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19 May 17 @ 12:56 PM #
@sleepygeepy
Yung suggestion ko sir, is go for the Sapphire NITRO+ RX 570 4GB for Php 10,700. You get the improved NITRO+ cooler and yung 8-pin + 6-pin power helps in overclocking. Performance is more or less the same as the RX 480 and if you overclock, it can go faster than the RX 480 in some games.
One seller is advertising the Sapphire NITRO+ RX 580 4GB for Php 12,250 but I'm not sure kung worth it. Yung 4GB version has the same 7Gbps VRAM as the RX 570 and power consumption is a lot higher. Also sagad narin ang RX 580 sa clock speeds so I don't think you can overclock the GPU any further. Yung only way of overclocking the RX 580 4GB is making the VRAM run faster. If you are going with an RX 580 now, might as well get the 8GB version so you get guaranteed faster VRAM and just run the card at stock speeds for power savings.
So to summarize, with the Sapphire NITRO+ RX 570 4GB you get:
- Better cooling than the old Sapphire NITRO+ cards or the Sapphire PULSE versions.
- Better overclocking headroom than the RX 580. The improved cooler and 8-pin + 6-pin power helps.
- Power draw is about the same as the RX 480 and much lower than the RX 580.
- Performance in games will most likely be the same as RX 580 4GB especially if paired with your Core i5-4460. You won't notice the difference.
Salamat Sir, Nitro+ RX 570 nlng kuhanin ko. mas priority ko din nman kasi cooling, durability, future proof, and maybe power consumption. I activate ko nlng Silent mode.
May mga gusto lang ako iconfirm Sir.
- Almost same performance ang Nitro+ RX 480 (Stock) VS Nitro+ RX 570 (Stock) ?
- Ano advantage pag ginamet ko additional 6pin power o san say needed? nabasa ko kasi pwede kahit wala.
- Almost same performance ang Nitro+ RX 570 (OC) VS Auros RX 580 (Stock) ?
Salamat ule Sir.
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idemonverin
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19 May 17 @ 02:17 PM #
Hndi po, same tyo procie :)
Ayus! Salamat bro. Yun kasi kinakakaba ko e. Yun nga lang, yung pambili ko, hindi parin nilalagay sa sahod kaya mga 2 weeks pa para makapagbasa basa ng reviews. hehe.
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ronnel0918 [TS]
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19 May 17 @ 02:49 PM #
Nice! Ako naman i5-4590 gamit ko. Haswell Refresh masters. lol
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sleepygeepy
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19 May 17 @ 11:33 PM #
@jZeNtRiCkS
- Almost same performance ang Nitro+ RX 480 (Stock) VS Nitro+ RX 570 (Stock) ?
Sorry sir, wala akong makitang benchmarks na nag compare ng 2 cards side-by-side so hindi ako 100% sure. Pero sa tingin ko almost same ang performance nila. Although mas malakas ang GPU ng RX 480 NITRO+, yung boost clocks ng RX 570 NITRO+ is a bit higher:
Sapphire RX 570 NITRO+ 4GB = 1340 MHz Boost Clock
Sapphire RX 480 NITRO+ 4GB = 1306 MHz Boost Clock
Siguro may difference lang of 2% - 3% pagadating sa framerates. If paired with your Core i5-4460 baka hindi mo din ma-feel ang difference between the two cards while gaming. In terms of cooling performance, for sure mas maganda ang temps ng RX 570 NITRO+ dahil sa upgraded heatsink.
- Ano advantage pag ginamet ko additional 6pin power o san say needed? nabasa ko kasi pwede kahit wala.
Yung RX 570 is like an overclocked + optimized RX 470, so mas malakas ang power draw niya. Kaya siguro nilagyan ni Sapphire ng extra 6-pin power connector yung videocard para hindi mabitin ang GPU sa pagkuha ng power from the PSU. Also kung may plano ka mag-overclock at taasan ang power target to 125% mas maganda din yung may extra 6-pin power connector.
Hindi ko i-re-recommend na gagamitin mo lang ang 8-pin power connector at iiwanan naka unplug yung 6-pin power connector. Pwede kasi mabitin ang GPU mo sa power at mag throttle siya while gaming. Worst case baka uminit at ma-overload yung 8-pin power connector and possible na ma-damage pa ang videocard mo. I'm sure may good reason si Sapphire kung bakit nila nilagyan ng extra 6-pin power connector ang RX 570 NITRO+ so make sure na ginagamit mo din siya.
- Almost same performance ang Nitro+ RX 570 (OC) VS Auros RX 580 (Stock) ?
Hindi din ako sure, wala kasing benchmarks na pinapakita ang performance nila side-by-side. Pero kung yung videocard na binabanggit mo is Gigabyte AORUS RX580 8G (model GV-RX580AORUS-8GD), mas mabilis siyempre ang Gigabyte. Boost clocks niya nasa 1380 MHz and mas mabilis din ang memory na gamit niya at 8000 MHz.
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kaiserguian
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19 May 17 @ 11:36 PM #
may naka-GIGABYTE rx 580 dito(auros or not)? Question: Napagana nyo yung LED controls sa auros graphics engine? TIA
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briansmetham2017
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20 May 17 @ 12:29 AM #
ramdam ba difference ng rx 580 sa gtx 1060 3gb
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idemonverin
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20 May 17 @ 12:21 PM #
halo halo kasi mga nagsasabi ng comparison ng 580 at 1060. Yung iba sabi mas masbilis daw 1060, yung iba 580. Kaya mag-580 nalang ako kasi mas gusto ko itsura ng Sapphire Nitro+ at mas mura pa. Pero pag pinanuod mo mga benchmarks, mas mataas mga clock speeds ng 1060 pero hindi naman naka-base lahat dun.
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djdiaz
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20 May 17 @ 12:22 PM #
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kaiserguian
may naka-GIGABYTE rx 580 dito(auros or not)? Question: Napagana nyo yung LED controls sa auros graphics engine? TIA
Ako sir. Yes for once napagana ko through the app (forgot the name, Gigabyte Gaming app?). Although I already uninstalled it since I'm using MSI Afterburner and baka magka-conflict kasi.
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slorbes
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24 May 17 @ 06:50 PM #
May tanong lang po ako dun sa sapphire nitro+ rx580 dun sa 8pin 6pin. Kailangan po bang saksakan ung Dalawang slot or pwedeng 8pin or either 6pin
Tanong po again bukod sa sapphire na brand ano ung anong iba pangnibang brand?
Salamat sa mag cocoment.
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sleepygeepy
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25 May 17 @ 01:38 AM #
@slorbes
May tanong lang po ako dun sa sapphire nitro+ rx580 dun sa 8pin 6pin. Kailangan po bang saksakan ung Dalawang slot or pwedeng 8pin or either 6pin
Advice ko sir is dapat naka-connect pareho yung 6-pin and 8-pin connector. Medyo mataas din ang power requirement ng Sapphire RX 580 NITRO+ at nasa 230 watts - 240 watts ang consumption niya while gaming.
Actually nung chineck ko yung manual ng Seasonic G-650 PSU, yung nakalagay na instruction is use two separate PCI-E cables if yung videocard is 225 watts or higher. Since nasa 230 watts pataas ang Sapphire RX 580, kailangan niya talaga yung dual PCI-E cable.
Mas ok na sir sumobra sa power requirement ng videocard, huwag lang mabitin sa power kasi potentially pwede ma-damage ang videocard or PSU.
Tanong po again bukod sa sapphire na brand ano ung anong iba pangnibang brand?
Yung popular na brands ngayon is MSI, XFX, and Gigabyte. Hindi ko lang sure kung may ASUS RX 580 version na available sa atin. Kung hindi mo type ang Sapphire, check mo sir ang XFX RX 580 GTS Black Edition or yung MSI RX 580 GAMING X 8G.
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jZeNtRiCkS
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25 May 17 @ 03:34 PM #
@Sleepygeepy
Sir Salamat sa advice napaka informative,
I'm sure may good reason si Sapphire kung bakit nila nilagyan ng extra 6-pin power connector ang RX 570 NITRO+ so make sure na ginagamit mo din siya.
Tngen ko nga tama kyo sir, question ko lang, sa power consumption mas 1) Mas matiped pdn rx 480 kesa rx 570? 2) Baka may idea kyo sir ilang watts matitiped pag naka Silent mode? 3) Usually mas malakas power draw ng Nitro+ kesa ibang brands?
Hindi din ako sure, wala kasing benchmarks na pinapakita ang performance nila side-by-side. Pero kung yung videocard na binabanggit mo is Gigabyte AORUS RX580 8G (model GV-RX580AORUS-8GD), mas mabilis siyempre ang Gigabyte. Boost clocks niya nasa 1380 MHz and mas mabilis din ang memory na gamit niya at 8000 MHz.
Ok Sir, pero tngen nyo still worth it ang Nitro+ 570 vs Auros 580? actually priority ko in order are temperature, power draw, durability, performance.
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Odellot
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25 May 17 @ 03:36 PM #
May nakapag try na mag OC ng RX580?
Yep...Ito Firestrike score ko with an OC of 1525 sa XFX GTR Rx 580 ng Family PC namen..:D
FireStrike Result:
<click here for link>
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sleepygeepy
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25 May 17 @ 11:21 PM #
@jZeNtRiCkS
question ko lang, sa power consumption mas 1) Mas matiped pdn rx 480 kesa rx 570? 2) Baka may idea kyo sir ilang watts matitiped pag naka Silent mode? 3) Usually mas malakas power draw ng Nitro+ kesa ibang brands?
Depende din sir sa model of RX 480 and RX 570. Meron mga models na mas matipid sa power tulad ng ASUS STRIX at meron din models na mas mataas ang power consumption tulad ng Sapphire NITRO and XFX Black Edition etc.
Pero kung ang comparison mo is between the same videocard design (for example: RX 480 NITRO+ vs RX 570 NITRO+) in general mas matipid parin sa power consumption ang RX 570 but not by much. To give you an idea, ito yung power measurements ni Techpowerup:
Peak Gaming
240W = Sapphire RX 580 NITRO+ Limited (Boost BIOS)
224W = Sapphire RX 580 NITRO+ Limited (Quiet BIOS)
207W = MSI RX 480 GAMING X
180W = Sapphire RX 570 PULSE
180W = ASUS RX 480 STRIX
167W = Reference RX 480
Kung priority mo ang low power draw, then mas matipid ang RX 570 kesa RX 480 siguro by 20 watts... maybe less. I'm not sure kung mapapansin mo siya in actual use. Pwede mo naman i-undervolt or i-lower ang power limit para bumaba ang power consumption ng videocard. Just take note lang na may effect ito sa performance dahil limited na ang GPU humila ng extra power so hindi na siya maka increase masyado sa clock speeds.
Ok Sir, pero tngen nyo still worth it ang Nitro+ 570 vs Auros 580? actually priority ko in order are temperature, power draw, durability, performance.
Based sa priorities mo, mas magandang choice ang Sapphire RX 570 NITRO+ kesa Gigabyte RX 580. You get a better GPU cooler paired with a chip that is cooler running and uses less power. In terms of durability, alam ko both Sapphire and Gigabyte matibay naman so hindi issue ang durability.
Pero personal opinion ko lang... kung plan mo din i-undervolt at i-lower ang power limit ng videocard... might as well get the Gigabyte RX 580. Kapag under-volted at power-limited na yung videocard yung cooling at temps hindi na masyado issue. Mas less ang performance hit mo sa RX 580 dahil mas madami siyang shaders than RX 570 and yung 8GB VRAM niya is much faster than yung 4GB VRAM ng RX 570.
-- edited by sleepygeepy on May 25 2017, 11:22 PM
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aimsrhod
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31 May 17 @ 01:04 PM #
mga sir magtatanung lang po, pag po ba nakacrossfire ung 2 AMD cards eh magagamit pa ba ung output ports ng 2nd card kung dun kakabitan ng extra monitor?
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jZeNtRiCkS
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01 Jun 17 @ 11:02 AM #
Pero personal opinion ko lang... kung plan mo din i-undervolt at i-lower ang power limit ng videocard... might as well get the Gigabyte RX 580. Kapag under-volted at power-limited na yung videocard yung cooling at temps hindi na masyado issue. Mas less ang performance hit mo sa RX 580 dahil mas madami siyang shaders than RX 570 and yung 8GB VRAM niya is much faster than yung 4GB VRAM ng RX 570.
@sleepygeepy Salamat ule, actually pabili na dapat ako RX 570 Nitro+ 4GB nung weekends kaso wala daw stock. Ngayon napapaisip nanaman tuloy ako kung RX 570 Nitro+ 4GB vs RX 580 Auros 4GB/8GB. Although mag add ako ng almost 2k for 8GB, prang mas future proof sya tutal mag undervolt dn nman ako, balak ko din kasi patagalin atleast 3-5 years yung card saken kaya nagiisip na ko mag 8gb. Hay nako kung nagka stock hndi na dapat ako nagiisip haha.
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djdiaz
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04 Jun 17 @ 02:49 PM #
NEED HELP guys. Although, not sure kung sa thread na ito dapat ako mag post (if now, please link me sa tamang thread).
I'm having issues with my displayport. Ayaw mag On ng computer ko (cold boot) kapag naka plugged in ang displayport. Kapag HDMI lang ang naka plugged-in, nag-On naman. Weird kasi may workaround, On ko siya using HDMI only then upon logging in to Windows, I will plug-in the displayport and it works. Hassle lang, hindi naman ito ganito last time I used it. Don't tell me I have to unplug the displayport cable everytime I turn on my computer?
Note I haven't tried changing the displayport cable as I only have one. For now, I will try re-intalling the GPU drivers.
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lenz825
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04 Jun 17 @ 03:54 PM #
ilan umaabot ang temps ng RX580 nyo? I have MSI RX580 GamingX 8gb umaabot cya ng 75c at full load
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Odellot
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04 Jun 17 @ 04:19 PM #
@lenz825
I'm using XFX GTS Black Edition RX 580..60 to 65 ang temps ko kapag 1450 ang OC, 68 to 73 naman kapag 1525..
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bakitakonabanned
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04 Jun 17 @ 05:22 PM #
try nyo naman yung tekken 7 sa 580 nyo
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awatz
on
15 Jun 17 @ 06:25 AM #
out of stock na ba talaga 580 dito?
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jZeNtRiCkS
on
15 Jun 17 @ 10:44 AM #
^ oo nga pati RX 570. 3 weeks na ko nagiinquire ubos padin.
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idemonverin
on
16 Jun 17 @ 03:38 AM #
Tuwing nag-iinquire ako, ang laging sinasabi, incoming stocks but prices will most likely increase. #sadnu
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paps03
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16 Jun 17 @ 07:11 AM #
May global shortage ng AMD graphics cards dahil sa Ethereum. Recently discovered na mabilis sila mag-mine ng ether. Kung magkastock man, sigurado tataas price dahil mataas ang demand.
