Planning on upgrading. Help please.

• omg090 [TS] on 20 Apr 17 @ 10:15 PM #

  Hi guys! Plan ko mag upgrade ng rig maybe by the time na lumabas yung RX 580 dito satin :D Any comments po on what I plan on doing :D Thanks guys! :D
  
  Current Build:
  Casing Elite 431 Plus
  Case Fans SickleFlow 120 2000 RPM
  PSU FSP HYPER S 600W
  Motherboard ASUS M5A78L-M LX3
  CPU AMD FX-4100
  CPU Fan Blizzard T2 Mini
  GPU Powercolor Radeon HD 4850
  RAM Kingston 2x4GB DDR4 2133 So-Dimm
  HDD 500GB Seagate ST500DM002
  HDD 1TB Seagate ST1000DM003
  
  Upgrade:
  Case Fans Noctua NF-F12 PWM 120mm P1,030.00
  Air Flow Fans AF120 Performance Edition CO-9050004-WW Dual Pack P1,200.00
  Motherboard MSI B350 Tomahawk P7,300.00
  CPU Ryzen 5 1600 w/ Wraith Spire LED Cooler P11,995.00
  GPU AMD RX 580 n/a
  RAM Gskill Trident Z 16GB 8gbx2 ddr4 3200 CL16 P7,290.00
  SDD Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB P5,450.00
  Price P34,265.00
  
  *Yung price po ng Ryzen 5 1600 kinuha ko lang po sa yugatech so more or less SRP po siguro yan. Sorry po kung marami pa kulang or kung sablay yung build. Technically first time ko po kasi mag bubuo since etong current kong rig, pinagawa ko lang po sa kaibigan ko several years ago.
  
  Not sure kung sapat na yung intake na ilalagay ko para makakuha ng matinong postive pressure. Plus, pa comment naman po kung iisa isahin ko yung pag bili, hindi ko alam kung ano uunahin :D thank you!
  
  -- edited by omg090 on Apr 20 2017, 10:16 PM

• sleepygeepy on 20 Apr 17 @ 11:32 PM #

  Just a suggestion sir:
  
  CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 (with Wraith Spire cooler) = 11,850
  MOB: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK = 7,320
  RAM: G.Skill Flare X 8GBx2 DDR4-2400 (F4-2400C15D-16GFX) = 6,200
  GPU: (your preference)
  SSD: Crucial MX300 275GB SATA = 5,050
  ATX: Tecware Titan = Php 2,750
  FAN: Thermaltake Riing 12 LED RGB (3 fan pack with controller) = 2,150 (optional)
  -----------------------------
  TOTAL = Php 35,320
  
  Instead of buying expensive fans, upgrade mo nalang sir yung case mo to one with better airflow then add extra fans as needed . Yung Tecware Titan already comes with 3 fans pero admittedly medyo anemic yung fans niya (but functional).
  
  Pwede mo gawin is instead of buying 3 extra fans for the case, spend mo nalang yung budget mo to get a nice CPU aircooler.

• omg090 [TS] on 20 Apr 17 @ 11:50 PM #

  @sleepygeepy
  
  Thanks sir! :D hahaha. Hindi ko naisip yun ah. Buti nabanggit mo sir, since I was actually planning on buying a new case pa talaga. hahaha! Pero regarding sa RAM sir, yun yung hanggang ngayon hindi ko gets kung ano mga pinagkaiba. @_@ mejo na iinformation overload nako sa kakabasa sa forums pati sa kakapanuod ng vids sa youtube. hahaha
  
  *Saan mo pala nakuha sir yung pricing nung ryzen 5 mo? :D mas mura kasi, wala pa sa mga website na natignan ko @_@ nagtanong na din ako sa retailers sa mall hahaha hindi pa nga alam nung iba kung ano yung ryzen 5 -_-
  
  -- edited by omg090 on Apr 20 2017, 11:52 PM
  
  -- edited by omg090 on Apr 21 2017, 08:55 PM

• sleepygeepy on 21 Apr 17 @ 12:09 AM #

  @omg090
  
  Yung pinaka-challenge now with building a Ryzen PC is looking for memory na compatible sa motherboard. May slight performance boost ang Ryzen kapag gumamit ka ng high speed memory like DDR4-2933 or DDR4-3200. Yung problem lang may specific memory kits na kaya tumakbo at DDR4-2933 or DDR4-3200 speeds at hindi sila compatible with all motherboards. To make matters worse, yung specific memory kits na yun hindi readily available sa atin at may kamahalan din.
  
  What I suggest is stick lang to DDR4-2400 or DDR4-2666 memory and spend mo nalang yung budget mo somewhere else. Yung speed difference sa games when using DDR4-2400 at DDR4-3200 ay maliit lang, baka hindi din worth it bumili ng expensive memory. Spend mo nalang yung extra budget on a better videocard or CPU cooler.
  
  Sinuggest ko yung G.Skill Flare X memory kasi designed siya for AMD Ryzen at siya na ang pinaka-compatible na memory kit available sa atin. Yung price niya is not so bad at Php 6,200 for the 16GB kit.
  
  Pero kung gusto mo ng DDR4-3200 memory na compatible sa MSI B350 Tomahawk motherboard, available sa atin itong memory kit:
  
  GeIL EVO X 2x8GB DDR4-3200 (GEXW416GB3200C16DC) = Php 7,950
  
  Nasa QVL siya ng MSI B350 Tomahawk so certified ni MSI na compatible siya. Take note na white ang heatspreaders so baka mas bagay siya Tomahawk Arctic edition.

• sleepygeepy on 21 Apr 17 @ 12:16 AM #

  *Saan mo pala nakuha sir yung pricing nung ryzen 5 mo? :D mas mura kasi, wala pa sa pchub, dynaquest, pati easy pc e. @_@ nagtanong na din ako sa retailers sa mall hahaha hindi pa nga alam nung iba kung ano yung ryzen 5 -_-

  
  May unwritten rule sir na bawal mag banggit ng name ng shop sa TipidPC forums... pero yung price ng Ryzen 5 1600 galing sa FB page ng isa sa mga shops na binanggit mo :-)

• omg090 [TS] on 21 Apr 17 @ 01:11 AM #

  @sleepygeepy
  
  Thank you ng marami sir! :D hahaha! Sa maikling pag uusap natin na to, madami akong natutunan.
  
  Pero teka, nagbanggit ako ng mga shop @_@ hassle, violation na ba agad yun? hahaha!
  
  Moving forward, so far yung choice ba ng components, okay naman? I mean, ang primary goal ko lang naman is to be able to go with the new Next Gen games plus decent photo/vid editing. Na hindi ko kakailangananin mag upgrade for a brief period of time.
  
  *Regarding pala dun kung uunti untiin ko yung pagbili ng components, what would you recommend sir?

• sleepygeepy on 21 Apr 17 @ 04:08 AM #

  @omg090
  

  Pero teka, nagbanggit ako ng mga shop @_@ hassle, violation na ba agad yun? hahaha!

  
  Edit mo nalang sir yung post mo at remove mo yung names ng mga PC shops :-)
  
  

  Moving forward, so far yung choice ba ng components, okay naman? I mean, ang primary goal ko lang naman is to be able to go with the new Next Gen games plus decent photo/vid editing. Na hindi ko kakailangananin mag upgrade for a brief period of time.

  
  Ok naman yung choice mo of components and bagay yung Ryzen sa use case mo of gaming + photo and video editing. Kung may plan ka mag-upgrade ng memory from 16GB to 32GB (dahil sa photo / video editing), suggestion ko stick ka muna sa DDR4-2400. Kapag occupied kasi yung four memory slots sa Ryzen motherboard, usually hanggang DDR4-2400 lang ang supported na speed.
  
  

  *Regarding pala dun kung uunti untiin ko yung pagbili ng components, what would you recommend sir?

  
  Well kung hindi kaya bilhin lahat ng components in one go, then unahin mo na yung core components: CPU, motherboard, memory, and videocard. Then re-use mo muna yung mga parts ng previous PC mo like the HDD, PSU, and case. Mas maganda kung ma list down mo ano yung components ng lumang PC mo para ma-check kung pwede sila re-use.

• omg090 [TS] on 21 Apr 17 @ 08:57 PM #

  @sleepygeepy
  
  Hahaha Thanks sir sa pag chaga mag reply sakin. Mukhang ikaw lang mejo active ah. hahaha. busy yung iba.
  
  But anyway, eto yung build ko ngayon. Kung papansinin mo super luma na lahat hahaha.
  
  Casing Elite 431 Plus
  Case Fans SickleFlow 120 2000 RPM
  PSU FSP HYPER S 600W
  Motherboard ASUS M5A78L-M LX3
  CPU AMD FX-4100
  CPU Fan Blizzard T2 Mini
  GPU Powercolor Radeon HD 4850
  RAM Kingston 2x4GB DDR4 2133 So-Dimm
  HDD 500GB Seagate ST500DM002
  HDD 1TB Seagate ST1000DM003

• sleepygeepy on 21 Apr 17 @ 11:45 PM #

  @omg090
  
  Sorry bro hindi ko na realize nasa first post mo pala yung specs ng old PC hehe! Anyway if plan mo mag upgrade in stages, here's a suggestion:
  
  1st stage
  - Buy processor, motherboard, and memory
  - If PSU is more than 5 years old, consider replacing with a new one if possible (at least 600W true rated)
  - Re-use everything else
  
  2nd stage
  - Buy videocard or SSD, whichever you can afford first
  - If you are buying an RX 580 videocard, now is a good time to replace your PSU
  - Re-use everything else
  
  3rd stage
  - Buy new case and extra fans (optional) or instead of extra fans buy a CPU cooler (optional)
  - Install everything in the new case, perform cable management, make sure everything is working, check temps
  - Re-use the 1TB HDD then leave the 500GB HDD with your old computer so the old PC can still be used

• omg090 [TS] on 22 Apr 17 @ 12:01 AM #

  @sleepygeepy
  
  You're a f*cking genius man! hahahaha! Since gf ko nagrereklamo sa laptop niya na its too slow, yung old rig ko is good enough for her pagka work lang, admin stuff. NICE!
  
  I really appreciate your help sir! You've been a huge help! :D
  
  Hahaha, now yung next plan is how to get the budget AS SOON AS POSSIBLE :D hahahaha, need magsipag para makapag commission. But anyway, any ideas kung ano masaya tambayan na topics po dito sa tipidpc? Mejo nakakasawa na makinig sa youtube e. :D LinusTechTips pati JayzTwoScents hahaha.
  
  With getting the airflow pressure just right. Tinignan ko sir yung case na nasuggest mo. Panalo siya, hahaha, the questin is since wala ako experience sa pag balance ng air flow pressure. Any Ideas? :D
  
  -- edited by omg090 on Apr 22 2017, 12:07 AM

• sleepygeepy on 22 Apr 17 @ 02:01 PM #

  @omg090
  
  Yung positive air pressure sa case is just to help keep dust out. With negative air pressure may tendency for dust to gather in the seams, small holes, and small gaps sa case. Hindi air tight ang PC case so dust will eventually find a way in.
  
  Madali lang i-setup ang positive air pressure, just install more intake fans than exhaust fans sa case. If your intake fans have dust filters, run them at slightly higher RPM to compensate for the loss of airflow dahil sa dust filters.
  
  If you are planning to get the Tecware Titan, naka positive air pressure setup na siya by default with two intake fans + one exhaust fan. Just plan on replacing the fans with better ones in the future, kasi medyo mahina yung fans that are bundled with the case.

• omg090 [TS] on 22 Apr 17 @ 03:39 PM #

  @sleepygeepy
  
  Copy sir. :D Dun lang ako mejo nalito yung inaadjust pa yung rpm ng fan. hahaha. Pero thanks again, super dami ko nadin naabsorb :D