Hello. WHich one is better option?
LG HSN12ISY (Split) vs
LG LA150EC (WIndow)
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DC Inverter Aircon Thread (Aircon roundup and FAQ on page 1)
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Re: inverter refs
Going four years na po yung panasonic namin and so far okay na okay pa rin siya.
Thank you po pala sa mga sumagot when I was still choosing inverter ac. We still went for Daikin Queen and so far anlaki ng binaba ng bill namin :) i also monitor our kuntador. Temp namin is 26° pag nandito asawa ko tas pag ako lang 28° kasi lamigin. Unfortunately, yung nabili kong room temperature monitor ay sablay so pag nag-mall nalang buy ulit. Sayang money huhu
God bless po sa lahat. -
Since napag usapan rin lang ang walang patayang inverter refs:
Mine at home is a Samsung 13.5cuf no frost twin-cooling model which I bought second hand but still under warranty noong 2017. So far 5 years na halos walang patayan, the only time I serviced it (myself) is when I noticed na humina lamig ng ref (but the freezer is still ice cold and frost free) and parang may tumutulo na sa ilalim ng pintuan.
Lo and behold, dahil madalas naiiwan ng kids na bukas yung fridge door, nag accumulate ng condensation sa lower/ref evaporator assembly which eventually caused it to ice na umabot pa sa mismong blower niya, rendering it stuck so lalong nagyelo. Manually defrosted it using a hair dryer and cleaned the fan and coils thoroughly and it's back to normal. Kaso may kalakasan siya compared sa condo ref namin na condura bottom freezer na 10.5cuf. The samsung averages 100w whilst the condura only averages 55w.
Now back to walang patayan....
Controlled ang humidity sa loob ng refrigerator and almost dust free so it will survive years na walang patayan. As for airconditioners, dust and biofilm will eventually build up sa coils. -
Penge po suggestion, (sorry may back story haha)
Nagpost na ako dati dito regarding sa palpak na 2 room - exhaust setup namin, naging usable naman din siya kahit papaano kaso nag RTO na yung kapatid ko tapos nasa room niya yung AC so hindi ko magamit!!! Nanghihinayang talaga ako, nag butas pa kami ng pader. Kaya sa mga nagbabalak jan ng 2 room 1 ac na setup, wag niyo na ituloy! HAHA
So yun nga, balak ko na mag sariling AC maybe next month. Tatakpan ko na lang ng cabinet yung exhaust sa pader kaso nasa kisame yung isang exhaust (actually dalawa pero long story na yun kasi palpak nga haha), magkaka issue ba ako pag hinayaan ko yun? Medyo matrabaho na kasi if aalisin sila eh, iniisip ko since nasa taas naman siya and technically cold air goes down, hindi din naman sisingaw yung lamig sa butas ng exhaust sa kisame? Tama ba inisip ko? haha
Yung room ko naman, 5 sqm lang siya, facing north east yung window and installation site, kisame lang not well insulated, ako/laptop/monitor lang yung heat load. Ang pinagpipilian ko for now is: (All split type)
- 1 hp TCL (kasi mura pero medyo doubtful pa kasi puro window type yung may positive feedback)
- 1 hp Aux F (mura and warranty)
- 0.8 HP Daikin Queen (warranty and trust lol)
Any thoughts?
-- edited by KSolomon on Jun 23 2022, 07:31 AM
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OT na tayo pagdating sa inverter refs..
But let me just say na not all inverter refs are created equal. Hehehe. Meron din naman mga buenas sa nabili nila kung kaya happy sila. But I have to say that the fact na meron mga horror stories sa YT (marami) and mismong technician na ng Midea na nagsasabi na huwag muna bumili ng inverter ref says a lot to would-be buyers like me. I guess for others na willing sumubok eh go lang. But don't ever say that you were never warned.
@ksolomon
TCL - cheap, DC motors, great value
AUX F - waste of money even with 5-year warranty
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Has anyone tried OX Inverter ST?
They feature gold fins also. 5 year warranty on compressor, 2 years pcb & fan motor. 1 Year on all operational parts.
Tempting price for 31.5k for 2hp, 36k only for 2.5hp including installation.
@Sir Godai, not sure if what oem this brand has. thoughts? -
@waki
Edit: I have edited page 01 to include Ox aircon. After some searching, it's clear that OX Philippines is not connected with OX China which Gree Electric filed a complaint against. <click here for link> The local OX seems to be just a local brand capitalizing on the Chinese brand as their units are rebadged Midea for their high wall units and rebadged Chigo for their floor mounted units.
The good thing is that they come with a 2-year pcb and fan motor warranty.
-- edited by Godai_Yusaku on Jun 23 2022, 06:40 PM -
OT na tayo pagdating sa inverter refs..
But let me just say na not all inverter refs are created equal. Hehehe. Meron din naman mga buenas sa nabili nila kung kaya happy sila. But I have to say that the fact na meron mga horror stories sa YT (marami) and mismong technician na ng Midea na nagsasabi na huwag muna bumili ng inverter ref says a lot to would-be buyers like me. I guess for others na willing sumubok eh go lang. But don't ever say that you were never warned.
@Godai_Yusaku
No problem as long as I am active in this thread. :)
AUX F - waste of money even with 5-year warranty
+1 to this
Mismong Ray&J ininterview ko habang kinakabit ang ST AC ko sabi nila matagal nga daw warranty ni AUX pero question mark ang availability ng parts kaya hindi daw recommended.
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The rated power consumption of the Everest non inverter 7.5cu ft REF we recently bought is around 85 watts lang if Im not mistaken. Assuming these conventional refs consumes twice as much power vs inverter kind, its not enough for me to make the jump unlike inverter ACs that we're dealing with significantly less kwh of usage / thousands of pesos savings vs its conventional counterparts. There's also a gadget that can be paired with the non inverter ref to cycle it on/off to save on power consumption which @Godai suggested accompanied by a video depicting the disadvantages of an inverter ref. We had a discussion about it here around March that you can backread.
Anyway, that's just me not totally being convinced with inverter ref pa. Then may nabasa pa ako on the other thread that a batch of Panasonic inverter ref series were found to have factory-defects. <click here for link>I guess Im just on the cautious side din since nagka PCB concerns na kami with our inverter ACs before that we can't risk similar glitches in our household ref. Yun nga lang napaka limited na ng non inverter ref choices sa mga stores. Top brands like Panasonic doesn't sell non inverter refs anymore at least sa Ansons makati na pinuntahan namin.
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Kung wala pa, magandang topic din na magkaroon ng separate thread about "Inverter Ref" pro's & con's
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ok lang po ba palagyan ng aircon ang 1st floor kahit may open space paakyat ng 2nd floor?
gusto kasi palagyan ng harang ng mga kapatid ko ung paakyat ng 2nd floor para di daw mawala ung lamig sa 1st floor kung sakaling palagyan ko ng aircon ung 1st floor. sabi ko naman papangit ung bahay kasi may harang o sliding door or kurtina pa paakyat ng 2nd floor wew -
@retiredpalikero
Ganyan mismo ang setup ko sa bahay. 2TR cooling my ground floor with no issues. No need for a partition. Always remember that warm air goes up, and cold air goes down. Magka-problem ka lang if 2F ang pinapalamig mo kasi bababa yung cold air.
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Update sa pinsan ko na baligtad ang setup (2f pinapalamig, open hagdan pababa):
Previous setup eh 1.5hp Panasonic WT. 2F space is around 14sqm and may saradong pintuan going 3F pero yung pababa, open na hagdan. Palaging full power kahit naka 24 temp setting per my observation. And yes, anlamig ng door area sa baba ng hagdan pero di comfy sa mismong 2nd floor unless abutan ka ng wind flow galing sa AC.
So eto, nag upgrade ng 2hp na LG split type. Lo and behold!......
......full power pa rin kahit 24 setting. Ayaw makinig na ipasara na ng glass yung hagdan na kesyo mahihirapan daw mag akyat ng malalaking gamit. -
Lampas 12k bill nila last month (May) for that single AC unit plus other appliances and shower heater. Bill ko was 6.5k pero tatlong 1.5hp with two of them running almost 24x7 plus other appliances and shower heater.
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@kompressor
Yayamanin talaga yan pinsan mo.. -
Hello. Negative ba yung Carrier?
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@smiley
They're good naman. Bad lang talaga ang value for money. Yung WT nila are noisy and overpriced. Yung ST nila are good but overpriced.
Ergo, bad value for money -
@godai
Any suggestions. Was thinking Carrier or LG (since they have promo for free instalattion) and almost same price narin -
@smiley
Nasaan ka ba and saan mo balak bumili? Kasi sa totoo lang ay maraming nag-o-offer ng free installation bukod sa Carrier at LG. -
legit ba mga sir na bumababa talaga up to 10W yung ac?? parang pangalawang beses ko na naalimpungatan ng madaling araw temp set @ 27c then pag chineck ko si sonoff (hintay konti kasi may delay bago mag update ng W) nasa 10W lang siya..
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legit ba mga sir na bumababa talaga up to 10W yung ac?? parang pangalawang beses ko na naalimpungatan ng madaling araw temp set @ 27c then pag chineck ko si sonoff (hintay konti kasi may delay bago mag update ng W) nasa 10W lang siya..
YES, your outdoor unit's fan and compressor are both in OFF state if your room is on stable/maintaining temp. and that 10W shows your indoor unit's fan motor power draw.
nangyayari din sa akin yan. -
ohh wow! akala ko minumulto ako eh hahaha!
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Sayang naubusan ng Panasonic XU12XKQ. So just bought XPU12WKQ instead
Lets see if tipid nga ang split aircon -
may teaser Daikin na lalabas na yung wifi models nila this coming July. Sana i-carry ng Ray&Jay
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^ took them long enough..
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If I were cooling a large space, with an AC that I know will be undersized, am I correct that I should be going after the highest cooling capacity I can in order to make it match the size as much as possible?
For example, choosing the Gree Full DC 3HP, which has a cooling capacity of 31,050 BTU/HR over say others like 3HP Daikin queen which is at 24,200 or 3HP Panasonic which is at 27,979? -
@muwu
If I were cooling a large space, with an AC that I know will be undersized, am I correct that I should be going after the highest cooling capacity I can in order to make it match the size as much as possible?
Ideally you shouldn't get an undersized unit to begin with. But yes, if there is no choice but to get an undersized unit, get the most powerful one that you can find in hopes that it will somehow be able to get the job done. But then again, you might end up with a unit that consumes power like a conventional if it ends up having to work double time just to cool the space..
For example, choosing the Gree Full DC 3HP, which has a cooling capacity of 31,050 BTU/HR over say others like 3HP Daikin queen which is at 24,200 or 3HP Panasonic which is at 27,979?
Wala yatang 3HP na inverter ST si Gree dito sa Pinas. 2.5hp then 4hp na kaagad tapos hindi pa full-DC models. In my case, lumundag ako sa ceiling/floor hybrid para makakuha ng 2TR (3hp) capacity for my 35sqm space. The other runner ups in that capacity are the LG, and the Hitachi. -
@godai
meron sa mabces appliance gree 3HP ST full dc bagong labas lang yata kasi sa website wala hangang 2hp lang
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@muwu
@macool
Golly oo nga! It's as powerful as my 2TR unit but probably more power efficient dahil full-DC! Lots cheaper than many of its competition too! Super sulit in its class!!