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DC Inverter Aircon Thread (Aircon roundup and FAQ on page 1)

  • Sir,
    Any recommendation for 1.5 hp window inverter type with good corrosion resistance since our place is near to putrid water?
    Thanks

    -- edited by zeh0467 on Nov 26 2022, 04:59 AM
  • feedback sa Mabe na brand?
  • Hello ask ko lang po mag papakabit po kasi kmi sa sala ng 3hp n inverter ang laki po ay 40sqm po...ang ibingay na suggestion sa amin ay lg choice ko po sana ay aux dhil 5 years ang warranty kaso mas ok daw ang lg dahil maliit ang sakop ng aux hndi kagaya ng lg...lg daikin aux po pinagpililian nmin sa tcl kasi 2.5 lang mrron any suggestion po
  • grabe naman si Ray & J tagal mag ka stock :/
  • statix Send Message View User Items on 23 Nov 22 @ 09:49 PM #

    ^but just like what godai said. since may 2022 pa pala ang last cleaning nya, due na yan for cleaning.
    mag book ka na nga for a thorough cleaning na.

    Na check up na last friday 11/25, tinignan yun parang dalawang valve sa outdoor unit, may oil, ang sabi baka nga leak pero nun ni check yun pressure habang nagrurun yun unit (@850w nun pag check ko sa power meter), okay naman daw, nakita ko nasa 150psi dun sa psi550 na gauge nila. Pina cleaning ko nalang muka naman lumalamig na sya ulit pag sinagad ko sa umpisa.

    Kaso nun ni run ko lang sya @27c di ko sinagad, naka auto lang lahat, nag auto turn off ulit sya siguro after 20mins(code U0 ulit). Ang ni suggest kasi nun technician isagad ko muna sa umpisa then pag malamig na e set ko na dun sa desired temp ko.
  • @zeh
    Any recommendation for 1.5 hp window inverter type with good corrosion resistance since our place is near to putrid water?

    Union UGAIR-12001-INV - but check first sa seller to confirm kung may gold anodized fins siya
    Kolin Quad 1.5hp - sure to have blue anodized fins
    Panasonic 1.5 WT units - sure to have blue anodized fins
    LG LA150EC - sure to have gold anodized fins

    @joem
    feedback sa Mabe na brand?

    OVERPRICED

    @nixus
    Hello ask ko lang po mag papakabit po kasi kmi sa sala ng 3hp n inverter ang laki po ay 40sqm po...ang ibingay na suggestion sa amin ay lg choice ko po sana ay aux dhil 5 years ang warranty kaso mas ok daw ang lg dahil maliit ang sakop ng aux hndi kagaya ng lg...lg daikin aux po pinagpililian nmin sa tcl kasi 2.5 lang mrron any suggestion po

    You're looking to get a 3HP ST unit or a 2TR ceiling-mounted unit. Bullshit yung sinabi na maliit ang sakop ng AUX di gaya ng LG kasi kung same lang na 3hp yan, same lang yan. Ang issue sa AUX if F-series yan ay very poor ang efficiency. J-series nila ang matino.

    Kung 2.5hp lang ang meron ng TCL, don't force it. Stick to the 3HP units kasi malaki ang space mo. See below my old 3hp comparo but be aware that hindi pa kasama yung AUX dyan.

  • Hi Everyone,

    I am planning to buy 1 window type AC 1.5 HP para sa room namin(18 sqm)
    Ito yung mga list ko na AC
    - Gree Full DC Inverter - GJ12-6DR - 1.5HP
    - Kolin Full DC Inverter - KAG-145WCINV - 1.5 HP
    - LG LA150EC - 1.5 HP (matibay kaya ito? daming negative comment sa site nila)
    - Fujidenzo IWAR-120G - 1.5 HP


    Any suggestions? Kung meron din kayo marerecommend na mas maganda and also pasama yung link ng tindahan

    Maraming salamat ! :)

    -- edited by payatot901 on Nov 27 2022, 09:21 AM

    -- edited by payatot901 on Nov 27 2022, 09:27 AM
  • @payatot

    Ano ang sukat ng aircon provision mo?
  • @ Godai_Yusaku
    Thanks for the recommendation, will make my choice based on budget

    Union UGAIR-12001-INV - but check first sa seller to confirm kung may gold anodized fins siya
    Kolin Quad 1.5hp - sure to have blue anodized fins
    Panasonic 1.5 WT units - sure to have blue anodized fins
    LG LA150EC - sure to have gold anodized fins

    -- edited by zeh0467 on Nov 28 2022, 04:35 AM
  • ung room po na gusto ko langyan ng aircon, 7sqm. ung sala sa labas nya, 15sqm.
    occasionally gusto ko hayaang lumamig ung sala.

    ilang horse power po ung dapat ko bilhin? mas gusto ko mag splittype pero may provision naman sa wt, parang 50cm ung width.


    parecommend naman po.

    salamat po pala sa feedback about Mabe.
  • @joem
    ung room po na gusto ko langyan ng aircon, 7sqm. ung sala sa labas nya, 15sqm.
    occasionally gusto ko hayaang lumamig ung sala. ilang horse power po ung dapat ko bilhin?

    Minimum 1.5hp, ideal 2hp. If you intend to simply leave the door open, that will only end in failure as dapat ay may intake-exhaust setup ka. An open door is just an exhaust though over time (a very long time), both spaces will be cool if the door is left open long enough. You can choose to open the door then set an air circulator fan bedroom to blow cool air palabas into the sala area and force air circulation between the 2 rooms. Ang bad trip sa ganun setup? Walang peace and quiet yung gusto matulog sa room since the door will always be left open.
    mas gusto ko mag splittype pero may provision naman sa wt, parang 50cm ung width.

    That's an awfully SMALL provision. Wala kang mabibiling full-sized 1.5hp na WT na kakasya dyan. You either make your provision bigger (66cm), or you get a ST aircon.
  • salamat po ts.

    office ung bedroom. baka pag lunch time lang din siguro bubuksan ung pinto.

    wala nakaabang na outlet for AC sa sala kaya di ko mapalagyan.
    townhouse at malayo sa mga possible locations ng AC ung elextric panel.

    52cm pala ung butas. same sa ibang room kaya puro st ung ibang bedroom.
  • @joem

    Your best bet would be to get an aircon for each space. Walang outlet para sa kuryente? Madali lang yan basta may competent electrician ka. So long as may provision ang space, madali na lang gawa ng paraan yung saksakan.

    Compact 1hp for your bedroom office, compact 1.5hp for your living room (better if full-sized though). Mas mahal yes, but yun ang ideal talaga.
    52cm pala ung butas.

    That's an awful long way from 66cm needed ng full-sized units. A compact 1.5hp requires 56cm. Time to break out the angle grinder and start cutting that provision.
  • Hi @Godai_Yusaku

    Meron po kame lumang window type na hindi inverter. Katulad po nito

    https://www.carousell.ph/p/hitachi-ra-10ma-window-type-aircon-1-5hp-1009562488/

    Gusto po sana namin palitan and ang mga pinagpipilian po namin ay isa sa mga ito:
    - Gree Full DC Inverter - GJ12-6DR - 1.5HP
    - Kolin Full DC Inverter - KAG-145WCINV - 1.5 HP
    - LG LA150EC - 1.5 HP (matibay kaya ito? daming negative comment sa site nila)
    - Fujidenzo IWAR-120G - 1.5 HP

    salamat po sa sagot
  • @payatot
    Meron po kame lumang window type na hindi inverter. Katulad po nito
    <click here for link>

    Sorry but that doesn't answer my question: "ANO ANG SUKAT NG PROVISION MO?"

    I will assume na dahil conventional yan ay maliit lang yan. And dahil maliit yan, only a compact 1.5hp will fit AT MOST. I suggest you measure the actual width and height of your provision, then look at the units that would fit that hole. And when you have a shortlist of units that would fit your provision, share that here then we'll see how we can best help you out.

    In page 01, I made sure to say that inverter WT unit are generally LARGER than their conventional cousins. The secret to their efficiency lies in the bigger radiators after all. Best course of action? Bust out the angle grinder and make that provision BIGGER to fit a full-sized WT inverter. The provision ideally needs to be 66cm x 43cm (WxH) otherwise you're constrained to the compact ones only (56cm x 38cm).

    -- edited by Godai_Yusaku on Nov 29 2022, 04:49 PM
  • Kunwari ang room size ay 16sqm na gagamitin lang tuwing gabi habang natutulog with a target temperature setting of 26 degrees celcius.

    I understand na ang 1.5hp split type inverter aircon ay mas mapapabilis ang paglamig ng naturang kwarto into 26 degrees celcius target temperature compared sa 1hp split type inverter aircon. But will the maintaining electricity consumption between a 1hp split type inverter and a 1.5hp split type inverter aircon be the same once the target temperature of 26 degree celcius is reached at night time operation na wala namang heat from the sun? Let's assume na same brand and model ng inverter split type aircon at sa horsepower lang nagkaiba.
  • But will the maintaining electricity consumption between a 1hp split type inverter and a 1.5hp split type inverter aircon be the same once the target temperature of 26 degree celcius is reached at night time operation na wala namang heat from the sun?

    Minimum consumption at fan will be slightly higher dahil mas malaki ng kaunti ang fan motor ng indoor unit. But overall consumption will be lower for the 1.5hp because it is properly sized for the room. The 1hp will work harder to keep such a big room cool.

    The only time that the 1hp will be able to keep up in that situation is kung walang heat load, zero air leaks, humidity is low, and the outside temps are low. Beyond that, an undersized unit will NEVER be as efficient as a properly sized unit.
  • ^1hp vs 1.5hp with room at 16m² ; "regardless" of the operating time there would be , the latter should be the recommended still.
    and what if during daytime that there are walls were exposed to afternoon sun, ok lang yan kung insulated yung wall/s. you will feel the heat sa wall until midnight kung walang insulation yan. same goes with the ceiling without an insulation kung bungalow ang house.
    wherein the 1hp "might" consume more effort and power to cool the room as compared to the 1.5hp then.
    i'll go with the 1.5hp no matter what.

    edit:

    godai, bilis mo yalaga mag type hehe

    -- edited by statix on Nov 30 2022, 05:03 AM
  • Sa mga user ng daikin, may nabasa ako dati regarding sa frequent indoor leak? Ano ba pwede gawin. Kase nakailang linis na lagi bumabalik.
  • @heille

    Same. Yun daikin ko tuyo ng 2yrs and cleaning every 6mos kaso nun last cleaning mga 3wks lang nagppawis na ng tubig sa loob so dumudura cya kumbaga every few mins so pinapulldown cleaning ko after 1 week bumalik ulet.
  • Hello,

    I'd like to ask lng po about my options.

    59cm x 40cm po ung provision. Compact lng options ko.

    12sqm living room space; 2.8m height; 1.5HP ang recommended ng surveyor. Can I get away with a 1 HP?

    Options:
    Panasonic CW-XU1021VPH 1HP
    LG LA100EC 1 HP
    LG LA150EC 1.5 HP
    Panasonic CW-XU1221VPH 1.5HP

    8.64sqm bedroom space; 2.8m height; 1 HP recommended. Can I get away with 0.5 HP or 0.8 HP?

    Options (24/7 use):
    Panasonic CW-XN620JPH 0.5Hp
    LG LA080EC 0.8 HP
    Panasonic CW-XU1021VPH 1HP

    Thank you!
  • heille1221 Send Message View User Items on 01 Dec 22 @ 02:48 AM #
    Sa mga user ng daikin, may nabasa ako dati regarding sa frequent indoor leak? Ano ba pwede gawin. Kase nakailang linis na lagi bumabalik.


    indoor leak, you meant flooding/tumutulo sa loob ng room?
    clogged drain system lang ang culprit nyan paps. just make sure na nililinis mabuti ng cleaner mo yun drain pan hanggang sa pvc drain pipe extension.
    nag-flood rin naman sa akin kung talagang sobrang dumi na, yun tipong malapit na sya mag due for cleaning.
    sinusundot ko lang yung drain system ko, biofilm/jelly build-up sa drain ang cause nyan na pangkaraniwan lang talaga sa mga ST ACs.
  • ^yeah. Pero ambilis nya magbara. Like kay shatterstar, mga after 2-3 weeks na cleaning, barado na ulit. Ngaun tumagal ng 2 months after tanggalin p-trap at sinigurado malinis yung drain pipe. Around 8-9 hour use per day. Magastos din kung every 2-3 months cleaning.
  • ^yeah. Pero ambilis nya magbara. Like kay shatterstar, mga after 2-3 weeks na cleaning, barado na ulit. Ngaun tumagal ng 2 months after tanggalin p-trap at sinigurado malinis yung drain pipe. Around 8-9 hour use per day. Magastos din kung every 2-3 months cleaning.


    Sa akin 13-16 hrs usage so if ccompare ko pala sa usage mo e parang 2mos worth na din sakin lol. Malinis din drain nun akin saka un pag tumulo akin na asa drainpan un tulo e un ata talaga madumi na sa akin. Un case ko ngaun matinding moist o ngpapawis sa loob e. Tapos siempre parang nag sspit na cya pag matagal na umaandar or may babagsak na tiny drops.

    Normal naman freon level saka di nagyeyelo. Ewan lang baka sa tubo may yelo kaso di naman nagmmoist un parang wrappings nia sa labas.
  • @heille1221

    Relatively mabilis talaga magbara yan Daikin vs. our other ST units. Though my Elite lasts longer than yours. Anyway, it is what it is and may workaround naman na suggest dito. Try to use Amber Pro Tec in your next cleaning see if it gives you more time interval with your maintenance sched

    -- edited by musicgeek on Dec 01 2022, 04:34 PM
  • I'd like to ask lng po about my options. 59cm x 40cm po ung provision. Compact lang options ko.

    Room 1: 12sqm living room space; 2.8m height; 1.5HP ang recommended ng surveyor. Can I get away with a 1 HP?

    Heck no. Unless it's the Union UGAIR-9001-INV.
    Options:
    Panasonic CW-XU1021VPH 1HP
    LG LA100EC 1 HP
    LG LA150EC 1.5 HP
    Panasonic CW-XU1221VPH 1.5HP

    LG LA150EC
    KOLIN KAG-145-RSINV
    Gree GJ12-6DR (and its rebadged variants)

    Room2: 8.64sqm bedroom space; 2.8m height; 1 HP recommended. Can I get away with 0.5 HP or 0.8 HP?

    Only if your room is the size of a toll booth. Those sub-1hp WT variants are an exercise in futility.
    Options (24/7 use):
    Panasonic CW-XN620JPH 0.5Hp
    LG LA080EC 0.8 HP
    Panasonic CW-XU1021VPH 1HP

    Panasonic CW-XU1021VPH
    Gree GJ09-6DR (and its rebadged variants)
  • Only if your room is the size of a toll booth


    Isali mo na rin yung pay parking cashiers.
  • Naka factory sale si Kolin sa Dasma.
    Sino naka kuha Kolin Quads?
  • Magandang hapon po.. Currently shopping for 1HP WT Aircon . Ano po kaya mas okay dito sa dalawa? 28k below lang po sana for a 14sqm living room po.
    Panasonic CW-U921JPH 1.0HP
    <click here for link>
    or
    LG LA100EL
    <click here for link>

    Salamat po

    -- edited by Gradius on Dec 02 2022, 11:26 PM
  • ^@gradius
    dapat 1.5hp kung 14m²
    though both are good brands but i'm not a fan of compact units. sa full sized ako.