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lucas03
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15 Jun 18 @ 10:10 AM #
Cable ties
I mean you can still use cable ties in modular psu. Thus, you still have fewer cables to deal with in a modular psu.
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sleepygeepy
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15 Jun 18 @ 05:29 PM #
@lucas03
For some builds where the case has no PSU shroud, a non-modular PSU can result in a cleaner looking build. This is because you only have one bunch of cables going from the PSU to behind the motherboard tray.
If you look at the non-modular PSU below, try to imagine where the circular bunch of cables go straight to a single cable management hole. You only see one thick cable bunch going inside the motherboard tray, and the only cables that stick out are your CPU cable, ATX 24-pin cable, and the videocard power cables.
However your case has to be able to hide all the remaining unused cables from view. So it also depends on the case :-)
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sleepygeepy
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15 Jun 18 @ 05:38 PM #
@lucas03
Here's an "old school" example of proper cable management using a non-modular PSU:
Notice that only the 24-pin ATX cable is showing and the rest of the unused cables are almost hidden from view.
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rhyder
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25 Jun 18 @ 04:16 PM #
pa-help naman po mga masters. my cousin is thinking of upgrading his psu. currently he is using a generic one and is thinking of upgrading to a reliable non-modular or semi modular psu. his budget is only P1500-P2k. His current rig is a G4560 on an H110M mobo with 4gb ram. GPU is gtx 730 2gb. He has 2 HDDs, one 320gb and one 160gb. His case is tecware nexus m and is using the stock fans that came with it. that's it. I think a 450w is more than enough pero pwede rin naman kahit 500w or 520w. Any suggestions on what brand and model psu he should get? TIA.
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jelojelo
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25 Jun 18 @ 04:35 PM #
corsair vs450 pasok sa budget nya nasa 1720 pesos un
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rhyder
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26 Jun 18 @ 07:39 AM #
^ yan din ang iniisip ko. Hehe. Was just wondering if this is the best for his budget.
Anyway, we'll probably get this. Thanks for the input! :)
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lucas03
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27 Jun 18 @ 08:21 AM #
However your case has to be able to hide all the remaining unused cables from view. So it also depends on the case :-)
This is what I have in mind when I made the question. You've raised a fair point sir.
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sempron_guy
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29 Jun 18 @ 12:00 AM #
choose this over the Corsair VS 550 with the self advertised 85% rating. This one is similarly priced, and is 80 Plus Bronze certified. Only technical review I found in the web is from tweakpc.de and it turned out decent. Looks like it's the better choice at 2.1k? Sadly no idea on whose the OEM. Aesthetically, the upside is the cables are all black.
review
<click here for link>
-- edited by sempron_guy on Jun 29 2018, 12:01 AM
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sleepygeepy
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29 Jun 18 @ 01:17 AM #
@sempron_guy
Cougar typically uses HEC as the OEM for their power supplies. But to be fair they are a German based company so "German engineering" applies hehe. The Cougar VTX series has good reviews but pricing here is a bit too close to the Seasonic S12II series:
Php 2,600 = Cougar VTX 500
Php 2,850 = Seasonic S12II-520
If you got the VTX 500 for Php 2,100 that's a good deal already. What the Cougar distro should do is bring in the Cougar VTX 450 because there are not many budget PSU choices at the 400W range. That model will have a good chance of bumping off the Corsair VS450 if warranty is the same or better as Corsair.
BTW you can find detailed reviews of Cougar PSU's at https://www.computerbase.de/
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rhyder
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29 Jun 18 @ 01:45 AM #
@sempron_guy
Thanks for the suggestion! :) However, I couldn't find a deal here in TPC at P2100 for this psu. Saan nyo po nabili? The ads here all listed it at P2600.
Anyway, I think this is over his budget, medyo kuripot pa man din yun. lol But I'll still suggest this to him.
Thanks again. :)
@sleepygeepy
Thanks for the additional info. I learn a lot from reading your posts. ;)
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sleepygeepy
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29 Jun 18 @ 02:40 AM #
@rhyder
Anyway, I think this is over his budget, medyo kuripot pa man din yun. lol But I'll still suggest this to him.
BTW, kung kurips si pinsan pwede mo sabihin na yung Seasonic S12II-520 may 5 year warranty. So parang isipin nalang niya yung Php 2,850 cost spread over 5 years... bolahin mo nalang :-)
Pero kung super tight talaga ang budget, here are some potentially good deals. These are brand-new-old-stock units most likely shipped from Owltech Japan:
Php 1,500 = FSP RAIDER 650W 80+ Silver
Php 1,600 = FSP AURUM S 500W 80+ Gold
Php 2,000 = FSP AURUM S 600W 80+ Gold
Since brand-new-old-stock may risk na baka masira agad, but yung chances are slim. Yung shop offers a 1 month warranty so hopefully enough na yung 1 month to determine kung lemon unit or hindi. So stress test na niya ang PSU at mag heavy gaming siya for the 1st month if possible.
Yung shop is located sa Pasig Pateros area and medyo out of the way, but they do deliveries and meetups. Another shop is offering the same PSU's sa LRT Caloocan Mall Northmall building pero mas mahal ang prices niya (Php 2,000 for the FSP Raider). PM ko nalang sayo ang shops if interested si pinsan mo.
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sempron_guy
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29 Jun 18 @ 08:49 AM #
Mukhang mali yung pricing na binenta sakin haha just checked dun sa binilhan ko, it's now priced at 2.6k. That makes my post above useless dahil at 2.6k dami na nga option like the most likely better Seasonic S12II 520w. Anyway ito pic ng receipt. Item just arrived yesterday.
-- edited by sempron_guy on Jun 29 2018, 08:50 AM
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rhyder
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29 Jun 18 @ 03:17 PM #
@sleepygeepy
the fsp aurum s 500w 80+ gold looks like a good deal at P1600. yes po, paki-pm yung name ng shops, it's always good to have choices. hehehe
Salamat!
@sempron_guy
swerte ah, you got it for P2100? P500 din yung na-save nyo. haha!
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DANIEL_JOHNS
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17 Jul 18 @ 08:19 AM #
Logicgate cristyle store. tpc_cristyle
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jawbreakers
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18 Jul 18 @ 08:46 AM #
^May mabibili pa kaya ako na 14 pins PSU para sa lenovo?
Problem kasi is pag turn on and several minutes nag shut off na agad ang unit at matagal bago mabuhay.
Motherboard or PSU? Thanks!
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lebronJ_23
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29 Jul 18 @ 01:11 AM #
Mga sir pasuggest psu n budget n matibay pang 3570k/gtx770 nasira n kc 8yrs psu ko
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chaingang317
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07 Aug 18 @ 02:06 PM #
Masters, tanong lang kung kaya ba ng PSU ko yung build ko? Currently, I have Ryzen 7 1700 and magpapalit na ko to 2700x. Ni-compute ko sa PSU calculator pero mukhang ok naman. No overclocking build gagawin ko. stock clocks lang... Sa ngayon naman using 1700 wala naman problema.
PSU: Corsair RM650
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x (replacing 1700) stock cooler
GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 64 Limited Edition
MOBO: MSI X370 SLI Plus
RAM: 16GB 2400 Corsair Vengeance DDR4
SSD: 2x 120GB
HDD: 1x 1TB
FANS: 7x 120mm RGB
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sleepygeepy
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07 Aug 18 @ 05:50 PM #
@chaingang317
Medyo uncomfortable ako with your planned setup. Ang Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 64 consumes 330W during gaming which is already 50% load on your PSU. Then kung mag add ka ng Ryzen 7 2700X which consumes more than 140W at stock speeds, you are looking at a total power consumption of around 470W+ when gaming. This is all at stock operation at wala pang overclocking involved.
Ang Corsair RM650 is true rated but 470 watts is already more than 70% load, so yung gold efficiency rating niya mag drop na to lower levels. Also wala ka narin masyadong allowance in case mag overclock ka ng GPU or use precision boost overdrive sa Ryzen 7 2700X. I'm sure gagana pa naman ang setup mo with the Corsair RM650 pero medyo hirap na ang PSU dahil mas mataas ang load sa kaniya.
Kung kaya ng budget, suggestion ko move up to a 750W gold rated PSU at the very least. Pero in my opinion mas ok na mag 850W gold rated PSU kung plan mo gamitin ang Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 64 for the long term. Konti lang naman price increase going from 750W to 850W model and at least may extra allowance ka for upgrades / overclocking.
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chaingang317
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08 Aug 18 @ 06:28 AM #
salamat boss sleepygeepy... for now, wala pa naman nilalarong games sa PC so idownclock ko na lang din yung GPU to be sure. Will plan my upgrade pag may budget na.
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mecha50
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11 Aug 18 @ 02:36 PM #
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Jeopardise
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12 Aug 18 @ 07:30 PM #
Good evening mga sir! Papatulong po ako dahil limitado po ang kaalaman ko tungkol dito.
Nasira po kasi yung power supply ng pc ko siguro dahil sa luma na rin. Cooler master 460w na kasama pa ng casing nung binili.
Eto po yung pc specs:
Mobo ASUS P8h61 mle usb3
Hdd 320gb wd
Inno3d gt440
I5 2400
LG dvdrw
4gb ddr3
Gagamitin po sya mostly sa Photoshop/Illustrator/graphics software. LOL lang din po ang laro pero minsan lang din.
Ok po ba yung VS450? 2k below lang po kasi ang budget ko eh. May mairerecomenda po ba kayong mas mura at mas reliable na model? Saka ok lang po ba na baligtarin yung PSU kung sakali? Sa baba kasi ng case yung lagayan nya.
Maraming salamat
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sleepygeepy
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13 Aug 18 @ 06:27 AM #
@Jeopardise
Ok po ba yung VS450? 2k below lang po kasi ang budget ko eh. May mairerecomenda po ba kayong mas mura at mas reliable na model?
Ok naman ang Corsair VS450 at more than adequate na siya para sa specs ng PC mo. Another option is DeepCool DE500 pero tingin ko mas OK ang Corsair brand and hindi naman sila nagkakalayo ng price.
Saka ok lang po ba na baligtarin yung PSU kung sakali? Sa baba kasi ng case yung lagayan nya.
Ok lang as long as walang nakaharang sa PSU fan. Dapat kasi may space yung PSU fan para makakuha siya ng fresh air otherwise pwede mag overheat ang PSU. Kung bottom mounted ang PSU at yung case mo walang PSU cover or walang PSU shroud, pwede mo i-mount ang PSU with the fan pointing up.
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Godai_Yusaku
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13 Aug 18 @ 04:59 PM #
@Mecha
450w ang nakalagay sa label? Looking at the internals it looks like a 250w psu to me. The primary is a bit lacking some capacitors and MOV's. Wala din heat sink yung primary bridge rectifier. The topology does seem to be double forward though we have no idea kung ano ang ginamit na transistors sa primary and secondary. The dual 12v rail is also highly unlikely given how the wires are soldered onto the pcb. Wala din akong nakikitang temperature sensor sa secondary as well as wala din protection ICs. It's an evolved generic psu kung tutuusin.
It would be great for low power rigs na naka-onboard video lang tapos light usage. Beyond that, it will never compare to a VS-450 or even a surplus FSP 60APN unit.
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romnick022
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15 Aug 18 @ 04:13 PM #
may nag re repair kaya ng PSU?
tumutunog yung PSU ko dati tapos biglang ayaw na mag ON
ayaw na rin mag ON ng mag isa kung naka direct...
Thanks!
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JoshuaInd
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15 Aug 18 @ 10:25 PM #
Any personal reviews for this psu? have anyone tried on their mini itx build?
FSP Dagger 600w
<click here for link>
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jimboy0807
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22 Aug 18 @ 12:25 AM #
ask ko lang bossing..ok po ung deepcool de600 psu..sbi ng iba oem daw to original model is deepcool da600.. nbili ko sya sa gilmore 1800 yan po kc budget..sbi ok nman daw sya gpu ko zotac 2gb 1050 mini.. eto po rig ko..
ryzen 5 2400g
msi b450 mortar
geil 2x 4gb 2400hz
zotac 2gb 1050 min
tecware nexus m casing..
acce..
raidmax 3 fans rgb
2 fans led
mid range gamer po ako 6 to 7hrs lng po gumagamit..online gamer po ako..never been trying overclocking... d po kaya overheat ako voltage ..ok nman sya quiet ng fan nya..lahat nman po working..
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seororo
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31 Aug 18 @ 05:16 AM #
Php 1,500 = FSP RAIDER 650W 80+ Silver
Php 1,600 = FSP AURUM S 500W 80+ Gold
Php 2,000 = FSP AURUM S 600W 80+ Gold
Kindly send me the store info as well. I need a couple of replacement PSUs. Thanks! :)
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romnick022
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02 Sep 18 @ 11:23 PM #
hello mga Sirs,
ano kaya ang mas Ok sa Seasonic G-Series vs Focus FX na model, mas mahal lang mg konti yung FX...
at kung sulit ba mag upgrade ng PSU, coming from Corsair VS550... meron n kasi akong GTX 1060 kaya baka mas Oks kung reputable PSU...
Thank you
-- edited by romnick022 on Sep 02 2018, 11:24 PM
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IZOD
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03 Sep 18 @ 07:27 AM #
I'd go for the Focus kasi yun yung masbago
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/seasonic-revamps-psu-product-lines,33363.html
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Squall_2798
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03 Sep 18 @ 04:29 PM #
ang alam ko phase out na yung g series go for focus.