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The PC Audio Thread: Sound Cards, On-Board Audio, Speakers, Headsets: New Products and Reviews

  • @jelome1989

    It's hard to quantify how much improvement you will get in sound quality by pairing the HD600 with a better headphone amplifier. The only way to know is to listen and compare with your existing setup :-)

    Based on my experience with the HD600, if you pair it with a modest amplifier (like for example a FiiO E17) the HD600 tends to sounds thin or flat in the treble, and the bass sounds a bit slow. Turning up the volume will still make it sound loud of course, but you will not get better sound quality.

    What I suggest is bring your HD600 + iTouch to the headphone shop in Shangrila and try out other headphone amps so you can hear the difference. Yung maganda sa HD600 is it scales up in sound quality when paired with better amps. So yung limitation is your ability to hear better details in the sound and how much money you can spend on the amp :-)

    Thank you for that friendly and informative response. Pero sir kung tatanongin ko kayo, sa personal experience niyo if you have the HD600, gano kalaki improvement niya with an amp? Will you definitely buy an amp for the HD600? Ako kasi impressed nako with the HD600, no wonder kasi puro midfi lang hps ko. None of my hps are able to produce that beautiful sound - perfectly balanced and natural sounding. They all sound colored to me now and unnatural. Kaya nag wonder ako kung magimprove pa siya considering how good it already is in my experience. But since they do improve, I guess I just take the risk and go for it hehe...

    Did you have any headphone amplifier in mind?

    Mga nababasa ko sir ok daw synergy with Darkvoice 336se? How about solid states sir? Any suggestions sir para masala ko na yung choices hehe...

    EDIT: Word

    -- edited by jelome1989 on Apr 02 2017, 08:05 PM
  • @jelome1989
    Pero sir kung tatanongin ko kayo, sa personal experience niyo if you have the HD600, gano kalaki improvement niya with an amp? Will you definitely buy an amp for the HD600?

    Yes, sulit bumili ng powerful headphone amp para sa HD600 and very noticeable ang improvement in sound quality.

    With my HD600 nag try ako ng entry-level headphone amps, starting from JDS Labs O2 to SMSL VMV VA2 and finally settling on Matrix M-Stage. Kapag gamit ko yung Matrix M-Stage very smooth ang treble and napaka-tight ng bass. Also yung midrange parang mas nag-open pa ng konti. Sa tingin ko kung bibili ako ng mas high-end na amplifier or OTL tube amp mas gaganda pa sound ng HD600. Pero nag stop muna ako sa headphone upgrades kasi yung listening preference ko ngayon napupunta sa speakers :-)

    My personal rule of thumb... kung isa lang yung headphone na gamit mo like the Sennheiser HD600, invest on a headphone amplifier that costs about the same as the HD600. Try not to go above kasi buying a more expensive headphone will give you more bang-for-buck than buying a more expensive amplifier. Pero if you are using 2 or more headphones in your collection then it makes sense to invest in a high-end amp kasi it will improve the sound of more than one headphone, so nagiging sulit yung upgrade.

    Mga nababasa ko sir ok daw synergy with Darkvoice 336se? How about solid states sir? Any suggestions sir para masala ko na yung choices hehe...

    Maganda ang synergy ng OTL tube amps with HD600 dahil mas suited to high impedance loads ang OTL tube amps. Hindi ko alam yung technicalities behind it but they say na parang effortless yung pag drive ng high impedance headphones with those amps. Yung Darkvoice is a good OTL amp to pair with HD600 but hindi ako sure kung available locally. Other tube amps you may want to consider:

    - Bottlehead Crack (pre-assembled)
    - Schiit Valhalla 2
    - Little Dot MK II
    - La Figaro 332C / 332S
    - Woo Audio WA3 / WA6

    Also look at Cayin and Yaqin amplifiers as they specialize in tube amps as well.

    Regarding solid state amps, they are also a good pairing and are easier to maintain / more user friendly. Also they might be easier to buy / order abroad since maselan din ang vaccum tubes. Take a look at solid state amps from, Violectric / Lake People, Audio-GD, Lehmannaudio, Schiit and others. Siguro settle on a budget first before choosing then look at reviews :-)
  • Thanks sir, you've been most helpful. Will look into those.
  • giys san nkkbili ng usb to optical adapter ty ty
  • guys san nakakaili ng usb to optical adapter satin, or something like this..





    wala kasi optical port ang ps4 slim hehe. so para sana sa wireless headset ko
  • Kakainstall ko lang ng Windows 10 Creator's Update. Meron nang bagong setting para sa sound devices na "spatial sound format". Built-in na pala sa Windows 10 yung headphone virtual 7.1 surround. Pwedeng pumili either Windows Sonic Headphones or Dolby Atmos Headphones. Test ko this weekend to compare with Creative SBX Pro Studio 5.1 Virtual Headphone Surround.
  • Best 2.0 speaker under 1000?
  • Advise po 1-2k budget speaker good for movies, music sa desktop. Thanks. :)
  • @romeocharlie

    edifier X600
  • pabulong naman po kung saan shop may installment term ng edifier speaker :D tia
  • parecommend naman po ng soundbar. thanks po.
  • Parecommend naman pong speakers for movies,gaming and music pang league of legends lang...
    24k kasi budget ko
    10k sa monitor
    5k sa keyboard
    5k sa internet

    Yung mga 2 to 4k na speakers ty
  • Guys need opinion.

    Altec helix vs. lozenge vs. swans hivi m10?

    Or other competition. Thanks.
  • @velc2009

    Best 2.0 speaker under 1000?


    Creative SBS A60 2.0 - 540php


    @romeocharlie

    Advise po 1-2k budget speaker good for movies, music sa desktop. Thanks. :)


    Altec Lansing Circus 2.1 - 2000php

    I did a mini review of it pero mas gusto ko parin tunog ng Creative T20 Series II ko pero mas mahal ng konti yun

    https://tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=287003&page=3#p11813344


    @GoodKenneth

    Altec Lansing Helix - 4000php


    @romeocharlie

    Hindi ko na matandaan tunong ng Swans M10 pero Helix > Lozenge. Mas polite at smooth ang tunog ng Helix pero mas madagungdong ang Lozenge

    https://tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=287003&page=3#p11901782
  • ty idol sa advice mo kkbli ko lng knina ganda ng tugtugan nung helix di ako nagsisi nabinili ko
  • ^no prob paps, still using it over my Creative T20 S2
  • Xenon AX-100 2.1 5 years ko na siya nagamit pero nasira na..

    maayos pa ba to? yung tumutugtog siya biglang nagfefade-out at nawawala yung sound ng woofer. 2 satellite lang gumagana pa..

    tapos wala na nag 'bbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrr' yung tunog ng woofer niya.. IC ba ang problema nito mga ka-tpc?

    kung bibili ako ng bago, meron bang 1k petot na 2.1 speakers? yan lang kasi budget ko..

    pang soundtrip lang gamit ko..