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The LCD Monitors Thread: Tips, Tricks, Tweaks, New Products and Reviews

  • Magkakaroon na rin ng "slightly more affordable" na Acer Predator Z1 Ultrawide series G-Sync monitors although not as high specced (1080p VA, etc.)

    Sana sumunod dito ang ASUS para magkaroon naman ng downward trend ng pricing sa G-Sync monitors.







    Take note yung OSD controls, ginaya na ng ACER ang ASUS.

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    -- edited by MrBungle on Apr 27 2016, 04:39 PM
  • ^
    Lol ginaya nga yung controls but i think pati yung led sa harap ginaya rin yung sa asus siguro nagiging red din yan kapag sync enable....
  • saan kaya nakakabili nung acer XR341CK? Or may marerecommend ba kayong any IPS freesync monitors na locally available? 75hz - 144hz. (Considering BenQ xl2730z pag wala tlga)
  • Nakapili na kasi ako ng upgrade para sa Samsung 2233SW ko at bibilhin ko na this coming Friday. LG 24GM77 ang bibilhin ko at ok naman ang review ayon sa Tom's Hardware. Around Php 13,700 lang at pasok sa budget ko


    Nakabili na kaya si bintsmok?
  • @ psyq

    Nakapili na kasi ako ng upgrade para sa Samsung 2233SW ko at bibilhin ko na this coming Friday. LG 24GM77 ang bibilhin ko at ok naman ang review ayon sa Tom's Hardware. Around Php 13,700 lang at pasok sa budget ko


    Nakabili na kaya si bintsmok?


    He he. Dito pa sa bahay. Nag-iisip kung tutuloy. Di dahil sa budget constraint

    May tanong lang kasi ako na hindi ko mahanap ang explanation sa Google at sa YouTube:

    I watched various videos at YouTube (from Linus Tech Tips and other less popular channels) about why screen tearing occurs. The explanation is screen tearing occurs when the your GPU is pumping more FPS than what your monitor can handle. Example is your GPU has an output of 80 FPS in Game X and you have a 60 Hz monitor. To eliminate screen tearing, you enable V-sync but the downside is you get 30 FPS if your GPU dips below 60 FPS when using a 60 HZ monitor

    Bakit ba hindi sapat na solution sa screen tearing ang 120 Hz / 144 Hz without G-Sync or Free Sync ? Posible pa rin ba maka-experience ng screen tearing sa 144 Hz monitor kapag ang FPS mo sa game ay 40 to 80 FPS ?

    Or ang benefit ba ng 144 Hz monitor ay to less screen tearing compared to 60 Hz monitor ? For example, pag 80 FPS ang frame rate, mas konti ang mapapansin kong screen tearing sa 144 Hz monitor ?

    Thanks

    -- edited by bintsmok on Apr 30 2016, 01:31 PM
  • I'm not sure, check Linus' review on XL2730Z, I think there was a part on the video where he showed screen tearing, I'm not sure though. If it wasn't the XL2730Z review, then I can't remember what it was.
  • Isang question pa pala

    May image quality improvement ba akong makikita sa TN panel monitor from 2015 compared sa TN panel monitor from 2009

    Thanks :)

    -- edited by bintsmok on Apr 30 2016, 01:52 PM
  • That I do not know.
  • @bintsmok

    ano ba current monitor mo sir? and what ba balak mong kunin sir?
  • Bibilhin ko na lang para 1st hand experience na lang ang kasagutan sa mga tanong ko. Sa foreign forums, conflicting din ang mga sagot sa topic ng 60 Hz vs 144 Hz

    Ubos ang stock ng LG 24GM77 kay suki :(
  • @bintsmok
    Bakit ba hindi sapat na solution sa screen tearing ang 120 Hz / 144 Hz without G-Sync or Free Sync ? Posible pa rin ba maka-experience ng screen tearing sa 144 Hz monitor kapag ang FPS mo sa game ay 40 to 80 FPS ?

    Screen tearing will still happen on 120Hz / 144Hz / 200Hz monitors as long as fixed ang refresh rate ng monitor. Even if yung generated fps ng videocard is below the refresh rate of the monitor, like 40 fps to 80 fps, tearing will still occur. The only way to eliminate tearing is enable VSYNC or use a variable refresh monitor like G-Sync / FreeSync.

    Yung problem kasi is the monitor is displaying each individual frame at a fixed constant rate (144Hz = 144 fps). Unlike the videocard which outputs the frame to the monitor at varying rates (40 fps ~ 80 fps) depending on the game. Dahil fixed ang refresh rate ng monitor, the monitor will not wait for the videocard and will keep on displaying frames that is available in the frame buffer. So kailangan makisabay ang videocard with the monitor and synch with it, otherwise a frame that is out of sequence will be displayed on-screen which shows up as a torn image.

    Siguro to explain it another way... ang 144Hz monitor displays a frame every 7 milliseconds... and has to refresh the screen every 7 ms no matter what. So yung videocard also has to pump out frames every 7 milliseconds (or frametime of 7 ms). But once nahuli ang videocard, and may frame siya na generate in 8 milliseconds or longer, only a part of the frame will be displayed on-screen and will show up as a torn image.

    Compared to a 60Hz monitor, less obvious ang screen tearing sa 144Hz monitor dahil mas mabilis ang refresh rate ng screen. But it's still there and shows up as a thin wavy line sa middle ng screen. Once you see it, palagi mo nalang siya mapapansin unfortunately.

    Or ang benefit ba ng 144 Hz monitor ay to less screen tearing compared to 60 Hz monitor ? For example, pag 80 FPS ang frame rate, mas konti ang mapapansin kong screen tearing sa 144 Hz monitor ?

    Benefit really ng 144Hz monitor is to allow you display framerates above 60 fps. So if yung GTX 970 mo can reach 70 fps ~ 80 fps on some games makikita mo yung extra fluidity in motion with the 144Hz monitor.

    Another benefit is shorter ang time interval when the monitor displays one frame to the next frame. This lowers input lag and makes the game feel more responsive to quick mouse / keyboard inputs. A 144Hz monitor refreshes the screen every 7 milliseconds, so if the player is spamming the mouse button firing an AK-47 in CS:GO mas mabilis niya makita ang result on screen. Unlike on a 60Hz monitor which refreshes the screen every 17 milliseconds, maybe some shots will not register on-screen or delayed ang visual effect despite pressing the mouse button very quickly.

    Another advantage of the 144Hz monitor is dahil mas mataas ang refresh rate niya, even with VSYNC enabled less ang effect ng framerate drop. With a 144Hz monitor and VSYNC enabled, yung videocard pwede makisabay or maki "synch" at these framerates:

    - 144Hz synch to 144 fps
    - 144Hz synch to 72 fps
    - 144Hz synch to 36 fps

    So kung hindi kaya ng videocard mo ang constant 144 fps na framerate, it will still be able to run VSYNC enabled at 72 fps which is still smoother than 60 fps. Diyan papasok ang Adaptive VSYNC half refresh-rate feature ng Nvidia videocards combined with frame capping to enable tear-free and stutter free gameplay.
  • @bintsmok

    pre, bili ka na :D
    sa gaming, may difference yan compared sa old monitor mo :D
  • ako sir enjoy na enjoy ako sa x34 ko.. gsync 100hz 1440p ultrawide.. hmmm.. bili na.. haha
  • @ sleepygeepy

    Thanks, bro

    @ plutho

    Yup, bibili ako pero nung nakapag-decide na ako, walang stock kay Pisi Haba sa lahat ng branches. Matanong lang ako kasi gusto ko lang masulit ang gagastusin ko. Ayaw ko naman bumili lang ng 144 Hz monitor para lang masabi na nasa uso ako

    Balitaan ko kayo sa experience ko once I have it :)
  • Bibilhin ko na lang para 1st hand experience na lang ang kasagutan sa mga tanong ko. Sa foreign forums, conflicting din ang mga sagot sa topic ng 60 Hz vs 144 Hz


    kung eye candy games,photo editing,movies at color color something mag IPS 60 hz ka na lang kung mahilig kang mag multiplayer mag TN 144hz ka as in kung seryoso ka sa multiplayer ng FPS ex bf4,csgo,cod etc....

    may nababasa ako dati mga korean monitor na ooverclock ang refresh rate from 60hz to 75hz up to 100hz ata....

    144 Hz monitor para lang masabi na nasa uso ako


    magandang upgrade din ang mataas na refresh rate

    -- edited by vladz17 on Apr 30 2016, 08:01 PM
  • Matanong lang ako kasi gusto ko lang masulit ang gagastusin ko. Ayaw ko naman bumili lang ng 144 Hz monitor para lang masabi na nasa uso ako


    magandang upgrade din ang mataas na refresh rate


    Bro, linawin ko lang. Di ko pinupuna dito yung mga naka 144 Hz monitor with or without varibale fresh rate

    Ang ibig ko sabhin, gusto ko lang naiintindihan ko yung bibilhin ko at di lang basta bili ng bili

    Thanks :)
  • ^

    the best siguro kung makakahiram ka ng 144hz monitor tapos ang boksing hehehe

    hindi mo lang mababasa ang sagot sa tanong mo kasi mismong ma iexperience mo pa ang sagot sa tanong mo. kung may tropa ka na sana na mahihiraman..... para walang pag sisisi talaga....

    -- edited by vladz17 on Apr 30 2016, 08:23 PM