oh and to add, you may want to settle for vengeance kung gusto mo ng g.skill
since they have the lowest ram clearance (which you'll benefit from if hindi mo alam kung ano RAM clearance na supported ng heat sink fan mo)
but if you are using a AIO liquid cooler, this doesn't really matter.
@Sleepgeepy oo nga bro eh. I am just waiting from an update dun sa "LRT2 Station" eh kaso wala pa update from the supplier. Hopefully available na rin dito yung Asus na Z170 Mobo, pasok sa banga sa budget eh.
Updated December 17, 2023 - AM5 Find Your Own GPU List
1. Since ginagawa ko na tong list for more than 10 years na ata sa TIPIDPC, it is time for an update.
2. PSU, unlike 10 years ago ay marami nang decent choices sa market natin. FSP, Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic, Super Flower, Thermaltake, Cooler Master mula 80+ Bronze to 80+ Titanium ay great choices except konting research sa Cooler Master at Thermaltake since minsan ay tinitipid nila ang 80+ Bronze PSUs nila. Seasonic > Super Flower > Corsair/FSP ang magaganda para sa akin. You are almost golden pag Seasonic or Super Flower ang OEM ng PSU mo.
Update: 2022 - Corsair RMX (2021 ver) IMHO ang the best sa market.
3. Importance heirarchy, not to be confused with my build flow.
PSU - puso ng isang system, huwag tipirin kung may $$$ naman.
CPU - the more cores/threads possible, the merrier since marami nang apps that can take advantage of both core/thread count and speed
MOBO - as long na (decent) 4-phase and above with a good heatsink for an OC board is okay. More is a bit better, check the bells and whistles of what you need, maybe you don't really need that RGB mobo lighting and etc.
Monitor - IPS>VA>TN. Color Fidelity w/ speed = IPS, Decent Color Fidelity w/ speed = VA. Since modern IPS monitors are as fast at TN, there is no need to get a TN anymore unless you have budget constraints.
SSD - Ideally SSD muna kung may budget since it is getting cheaper if used as a main drive
HDD
---Etong mga piyesa ang mga importante para sa akin kasi eto ang mga piyesang pang matagalan na at mahirap palitan.
RAM
ODD - May gumagamit pa ba?
---Unless na 16gb dual channel kit ang bibilhin mo at kung wala ka naman balak sa matinding multi-tasking (yes, multitasking = RAM, hindi lang po CPU), pwede na ang 8GB for gaming even sa windows7/10 64bit pero kung kaya na mag 8GB pataas ay bakit hindi? Tried and tested na ng maraming helpers dito. ODD, either you use it or you don't pero hindi naman lahat sa atin ay marunong magformat from the USB, gagawin ko po itong guide as newb friendly as possible.
ATX
GPU
---Okay din pumili ng magandang ATX at walang masama dun pero huwag lang po pumili ng wala sa budget or mag sacrifice dun sa mga nauna sa taas para lang "wafu" ang itsura. Luckily may maayos at murang cases na from Deep Cool, Aerocool, at Tecware. Kung gusto mo ng magandang GPU, wala din masama pero pag wala sa budget, wag po mag sacrifice ng nasa taas para lang makakuha ng maganda, ipon pa po at tyaga sa IGP muna.
HSF
Keyboard
Mouse
Speakers
---Peripherals, kayang mabuhay ng rig miske wala munang matikas na HSF. Mabubuhay din ang system na hindi Roccat, Razer at Logitech ang KB at mouse. Pwede ka din mabuhay sa libreng speakers muna. Luckily compared to 10 years ago, marami narin SEA brands na maayos gaya ng Tecware at Red Dragon.
Rig assembly, my take:
Madaming newbies ang gustong magbuo ng rig nila, masasabi ko na magandang experience yan. Sa gawain na to, hindi ko na matandaan kung exactly gaano ko na katagal ginagawa ko, estimate ko ay 20 years na? Totoy palang ako ay pinagaaralan ko na po to sa shop ng tita ko sa nag buy and sell ng PC units at sa mga technicians nya More than 20 years experience na!) at gusto ko lang mag share ng ilang sikreto ko.
1. Sa mga newbies na walang idea kung saan mag sisimula, meron pong website na tinatawag na "youtube.com", sa search bar, type, "computer rig assembly". Tandaan lang sana na i-ground ang sarili para hindi masira ang compents mo dahil sa static electricity sa katawan. Pwede mo muna hawakan ang kahit anong malaking bakal na makita mo.
1.1 Sa may mga experience na, eto po ginagawa ko: Mobo tray > screw mounts > masking tape or washer > mobo > washer (ok lang din na wala) screws. Naiiwasan nito ma ground ang mobo sa case, yun lang po. Marami narin nagbago sa manufacturing process ng mobo ngayon and this tip might be useless but is still good practice.
2. Cable ties + imagination = cable management!
Please take note:
1. Kung ang tanong mo ay kung kaya mag OC ng build, yes kaya naman mag OC. Kung magtatanong kung paano, hindi po kita sasagutin hehehe, may ibang thread po dyan.
2. A single yet powerful GPU solution is always the best course, iilang developers nalang ang nagsusupport ng multi-gpu option, most of the time ay may negative impact pa sa performance sa game dahil sa driver issues.
3. Sa builds ko, function muna bago porma. Always.
4. Wala sana magtanong ng, "Sir, paano po pag itong case (insert atx here) ang gusto ko? Pwede po ba?". Please, suggestion ko lang ang atx cases, kung may extra ka pang pera, why not.
5. OCing is not really my thing ^_^ okay na sakin ang 3.8ghz ng Ryzen 5 1600 ko
6. Wala sana magsabi na, "Sir, nagtopak po yung (insert item here)". Miske po tried and tested ang isang unit or item, hindi talaga maiiwasan ang bad batch or lemon item, nararanasan ko din po yan. Kaya itago ang resibo at warranty para sa RMA.
7. Kung gusto malaman kung saan ko po nakuha mga yan, meron po tayong IFS, pa search nalang at ang bawat presyo ng parts at suggested seller's price po.
Sa mga interesado malaman kung ano PC ko (as reference) para hindi na mag PM or mag post pa:
cpu, AMD Ryzen 5700X
mobo, MSI B450M Mortar Max
ram, 16gb 8x2 DDR4 3200Mhz Avexir Core 2
main ssd, 500gb WDC Blue 3D NAND SATA
game ssd, 1TB Kingston A2000
hdd, 1x 500gb WDC Blue, 1x 500gb Seagate, 1x 1TB Seagate
odd, Samsung Writemaster
gpu, 6GB Sapphire Pulse OC 5600XT
psu, Seasonic Core GC550W Gold
atx, Fractal Design Arc Mini R2
mon, Lenovo G27Q-20 165hz 1440p
kb, Akko MOD007
mse, Tecware Pulse Wireless
dac, Encore ENMA
spkr, Edifier R1000T
---106950php Just a monster of a processor that will have a platform support for another 2-3 years. It is still pretty decent for gaming, versatile for productivity, and for the number of cores and threads is still very efficient.
---50055php These new builds are fast but is pretty expensive. For a gaming CPU, the R5-7600X is actually faster than the Intel i5-13600K, plus you'll be supported up to 2025.
---3048php Sadly, there is no real "in-between" in this transition mula sa lifecycle ng AM4 to AM5. Since the Ryzen 5 5600 is still potent and is as fast as the 5600X and 12600K and is still not that far behind AM5. If you're going to spend almost 50K, might as well go with the newer platform.
Plus you can get this processor as low as 6000php if you know where to look.
You can still get an R7-5700X if your work needs more cores/threads, but for gaming, the R5-5600 is more than good enough.
SSD:
Sabrent Rocket M.2 NVMe 512GB - 4350php
Corsair Force MP510 M.2 480GB - 4150php
Western Digital M.2 Blue 500GB SN570 - 3500php (just a very good DRAMLESS SSD)
Power Supplies: THESE ARE ALL MODERN DC-DC UNITS
RTX3080/RTX3090/6800XT/6900XT:
Asus ROG Thor 1200W Platinum - 18000php (A heavily modified Seasonic Prime Platinum)
Corsair HX1200 Platinum - 13000php
Seasonic Prime PX Platinum 1000W - 12000php
Mouse:
Zowie by BenQ EC1-B - 3800php
Cooler Master MM731 - 3000php
SteelSeries SS Rival 3 - 1900php
Tecware Pulse Wireless - 1600php (this is what I'm using)
Keyboard:
For 4K-10K budget, you can do a custom instead of getting a pre-built:
base: Keychron Q1 QMK, Akko MOD006, Akko MOD008, Akko MOD007v2, Lychee G66 Pro, Lychee G80Pro
switches: Akko CS Jelly Black, Akko CS Jelly Pink, Akko Cream Yellow V3, Gateron Milky Yellow Pro, Gateron Oil Kings, JWK Black V2
kb, Cooler Master CK721 TTC Red - 4900php
kb, Akko 5075S - 4300php
kb, Akko 3068B Plus - 4300php
Headsets:
Sennheiser EPOS PC38X - $170 - THE BEST gaming headset
Cooler Master MH751 - 3200php - this is based on the Takstar Pro 82 headphones so this is an autowin, the MH752 has the USB 7.1 dongle
CORSAIR HS65 SURROUND - 4500php
Kingston HyperX Cloud Alpha - 3800php
HSF:
THERMALRIGHT Peerless Assassin 120 BLACK - 3600php
ID Cooling SE-226-XT Black - 2000php
ID Cooling SE224 XT BLACK V2 - 1200php
CAVEAT EMPTOR - the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.
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R9 390 mas okay sa GTX 970. Sa 1080p gaming almost no difference pero sa 1440p mas lamang 390. Mas malaki rin VRAM ng 390, 8gb compared sa 3.5gb + .5gb "slower" vram ng 970
@fakuryu, sir tanong lang po, gusto ko kasi magbuild ng pc at ang main purpose ko is to play nba2k16. Ito po ang recommended requirements ng game
OS: Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit or Windows 10 64-bit
Processor: Intel Core i5 or better
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: DirectX 11 compatible (2 GB) or better
DirectX: Version 11
Hard Drive: 50 GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card
Additional Notes: Dual-analog gamepad
may mga nagsabi kasi sa akin na kung gaming mas ok ang msi+amd kesa sa asus+intel. ano po masuggest nyo?
yung dota2 build nyo po pwede na ba sya for 2k16 or pwede ba yung cheapest build nyo if asus naman?
Wala nanaman akong plan mag buy/build ng rig ko kasi I was happy with my own semi-rig noon. Till, I replaced my broken HDD with a new one and added a SSD. I knew naman how to put in the components . It all went fine until I needed to re-insert my Graphics Card(had to remove it para maipasok ko ng maayos yung isang HDD), after re-inserting it ayaw mag boot ng pc.That's where it happened, pinuwersa ko yung pag pasok ng card sa mobo. Still didn't work, dun ko lang narealize na baka mamaya nasira ko yung graphics card ko, tried ko sa integrated graphics and sa ibang graphics card nagboot namang ung pc.
So nagplan na ko bumili ng gfx card, nagdecide na rin ako na buo/buy ako ng rig ko. Una ko binili yung gfx card sa pc hub yung promo nila kay Asus Strix GTX 980 (STRIX-GTX980-DC2OC-4GD5). Till now nasa box pa rin siya di ko pa naiilagay sa current pc ko.
Plan ko kasi is sa feb 2016 buuin ko na yung rig, currently meron na kong Gfx Card, 8Gb ram, 1 ssd and 1 hdd. Eto yung mga prospect na bibilhin ko:
MotherBoard Asus Z170-A
Processor Intel Core i5 6600K 3.5-3.9Ghz 4-Core
Cpu Casing NZXT Source 340/S340, Armory
CoolingCPU: Liquid Deep Cool Maelstrom 120K Hybrid
CoolingCPU Fan Scythe (SCBSK 2100) Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B
cooler fan: Scythe Gentle Typhoon, 1850rpm, 58.3CFM
PSU Corsair RM850M 80+ Gold, Fully Modular
Ang question ko lang is compatible ba yung parts na napili ko for the current parts that I have? And yung sa cooling, any tips on what to choose, kung liquid ba or air coooling? Kahit wala dyan sa mga prospects ko, budget is 50k (can go beyond if needed).
may mga nagsabi kasi sa akin na kung gaming mas ok ang msi+amd kesa sa asus+intel. ano po masuggest nyo?
Di totoo yan
Plan ko kasi is sa feb 2016 buuin ko na yung rig, currently meron na kong Gfx Card, 8Gb ram, 1 ssd and 1 hdd. Eto yung mga prospect na bibilhin ko:
MotherBoard Asus Z170-A
Processor Intel Core i5 6600K 3.5-3.9Ghz 4-Core
Cpu Casing NZXT Source 340/S340, Armory
CoolingCPU: Liquid Deep Cool Maelstrom 120K Hybrid
CoolingCPU Fan Scythe (SCBSK 2100) Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B
cooler fan: Scythe Gentle Typhoon, 1850rpm, 58.3CFM
PSU Corsair RM850M 80+ Gold, Fully Modular
Ang question ko lang is compatible ba yung parts na napili ko for the current parts that I have? And yung sa cooling, any tips on what to choose, kung liquid ba or air coooling? Kahit wala dyan sa mga prospects ko, budget is 50k (can go beyond if needed).
For moderate overclocking (10 to 15% increase in core voltage), sapat na ang air cooler
Kung kaya naman ng budget, get a Core i7 6700K
No need for an 850-watt PSU. A reliable 600-watt PSU will do for a high-end gaming PC with one GPU
No need for an 850-watt PSU. A reliable 600-watt PSU will do for a high-end gaming PC with one GPU
If that's the case then I think my old PSU can suffice naman, and can go sa i7. Another question regardless naman ng ilang hdd,ssd or other components ikabit ko sa PSU it won't overload naman no? Not planning on getting another GPU. And is the mobo ok ba? Di siya underpowered?
Di na ko naglagay ng hsf kase di naman overclockable yung CPU. At di na rin ako nag Skylake kase pansin ko masyado pa mataas presyo ng chips saka DDR4 dito satin para maging viable sa budget builders.
@bintsmok, ano po masuggest nyo na build na budget friendly na pwede ko malaro ang 2k16 atleast recommended requirements. Based sana sa sinabi ni sir fakuryu na "function muna bago porma".
Sir sa pag kakaalam ko, low quality na PSU yang Thermaltake Smart. Check mo dito, nasa Tier Four siya.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
Di na malayo sa Seasonic S12II 620W yung presyo niyan, baka mas maganda kung dun ka nalang.
question po, pwede ba ako gumamit ng mga gaming video card instead of yung Nvidia Quadro or AMD Firepro for simple 3D animation and modeling? Expensive kasi yung Quadro at Firepro atsaka hindi naman ako gagawa ng mga malulupit na 3D games, gagamitin lang siya sa school for learning Autodesk Maya at playing games casually.... TIA!
Pasuggest naman ng mobo + proc + ram na worth 12k-15k lang. Yung babagay sa Palit GTX 650 at 1600 x 900 na resolution monitor. Hoping to have stable 60fps high settings when playing league of legends. Kung hindi to possible sa budget pa suggest na lang ng cheapest idea nyo. TIA sa mga darating na suggestions!
Pasuggest naman ng mobo + proc + ram na worth 12k-15k lang. Yung babagay sa Palit GTX 650 at 1600 x 900 na resolution monitor. Hoping to have stable 60fps high settings when playing league of legends. Kung hindi to possible sa budget pa suggest na lang ng cheapest idea nyo. TIA sa mga darating na suggestions!
